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45 Dragoon

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  1. Understand. Get them glowing!! Lol and quinch in water not oil. Then Chuck them up in a drill motor and descale them with 320 sand paper followed with 600 to polish them. If they are mushroomed, clean them up with a file before heat treating. Mike
  2. My apologies, I thought it was mentioned already. The Kirst for the ROA has a single firing pin. I've never had one mushroom. The Howell type will but I always remove and harden them, polish them and haven't had any problems.. Mike
  3. Well, you asked about Kirst cylinders for ROA's and you've been told that you can see all of the rims. Then others chime in about 5 shot cyls and that is confusing to those that don't know the diff. So, with Kirst cyls, the ROA is a 6 shot affair with easily seen empty chamber. The 5 shot cyls that bear any resemblance would be for the Remington's and they are in fact 5 shot cyls (gated or not). And, you can see the rims in the Remington as well. So what would be the question? Mike
  4. Kirst conversions for ROA's are drop in's and are 6 shot cylinders. This is probably the most confusing thread ever !!! They work perfectly and of the "5" I have, absolutely no problems! The Remington cylinders are 5 shot and USED TO have a safety "chamber" but now have equal distant chambers with safety positions in-between each chamber. Mike
  5. Well, there is no "lower step" or 2nd finger to the hand. It is a single fingered hand in a '58 so go slowly. Mike
  6. If the bolt locks it, you won't be able to continue with the cycle. The lock-up and full cock happens simultaneously. Ideally, there is a couple thousandths play at full cock with the cylinder (thumb still on the hammer). This assures "parts protection" and as accurate an action cycle as you can get. Of course without a bolt block in place, I would not have any guarantee of the last statement. Mike
  7. Typically the bolt springs have too much tension which is why they break but, if it is cracked or weak, it may not be moving the bolt far enough. The bolt only needs about 4 lbs pressure, pretty easy to push down with your finger, but it needs to have full movement. A lot of Remingtons I get in the shop have bolt faces that are fit from the factory with a negative angle ( slants backwards from right to left). This is wrong fitting and promotes throw-by. The face of the bolt should be perfectly vertical (90°) with sharp (but broken) top edge. Mike
  8. You took it apart so obviously the bolt side of the combination spring is there. If you didn't check it it may be cracked. The hand spring is more than likely the culprit. It may be cracked or too weak for the hand to keep sufficient pressure on the ratchet. Part of it's job (the secondary job) is to keep a braking force on the cylinder to keep "throw-by" from happening. The process for installing the hand on a Remington makes it fairly easy to compress the spring too much and that is probably the problem. As long as the bolt fits, is not rounded over and is dropping on the cylinder before the locking notch, it probably just needs to have the spring bent to the rear some. A picture would help with a diagnosis. Mike
  9. VTI sells parts every day! (Never knew I was equivalent to a "3 toed tree gorilla" !! Lol) Mike
  10. From the profile it looks to be Armi San Marco. A view of the action parts would help. You should be able to see - S.M. on the barrel under the loading lever. Mike
  11. Never hurts to have proper setup when wanting a S.A. to be a race gun!! They can be "bullet proof " but not out of the box for sure!! Mike
  12. The posts look tall from that perspective but the safety slots retain their original size. I fit the posts to the slot to maintain as much hammer face as possible. Mike
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