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The only language relating to the reason(s) for the change that was in the bulletin that was sent out to the TGs is the following:

 

 

In 2018, SASS will be reallocating the SASS Sanctioned Regional structure as a result of numerous factors happening in the world of Cowboy Action Shooting and SASS today.

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Biggest factor is lack of attendance. Regardless of the new structure shooters should be allowed to shoot at their closest regional, that's probably where they shoot most often.

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There are just so many shooters available. If Regional matches are to survive, there must be some structure in place that provides them enough shooters to draw from to make it worth the effort. Just adding more matches does not help... it only cuts into their already dwindling attendance.

 

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For one there was no NorthEast Regional this year leaving shooters that earned a free entry by winning overall top lady, or man at their State Championship with no opportunity to go on to a Divisional by winning an overall in their Regional.

My hope is 2016 State wins will be honored in the new restructuring.

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For one there was no NorthEast Regional this year leaving shooters that earned a free entry by winning overall top lady, or man at their State Championship with no opportunity to go on to a Divisional by winning an overall in their Regional.

My hope is 2016 State wins will be honored in the new restructuring.

And then there are some who have won Regionals and have no chance of attending the Divisional...

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For one there was no NorthEast Regional this year leaving shooters that earned a free entry by winning overall top lady, or man at their State Championship with no opportunity to go on to a Divisional by winning an overall in their Regional.

My hope is 2016 State wins will be honored in the new restructuring.

Wait, there is no requirement to win, place or show at any match to shoot at a Divisional match. Unless the only reason the shooter was going to a Divisional match was because they won a free entry. If that was so, then boohoo. Everyone else pays their way.

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You miss the point. The top shooters will go on to the big matches weather the earn a free entry or not. SASS has something for everyone. For some it's the drive to compete, some its just a big shoot and seeing old friends, and for many it can be both.

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My take on the bulletin was as post #3 showed, the restructuring will not happen until 2018 so all 2017 regionals will stay as is. Starting in 2018 there will be either 6 or 7 regions depending on how the vote goes.

 

The bulletin also states that since a regional reallocation directly impacts all SASS members and clubs that, SASS is not arbitrarily deciding what the 2018 and beyond structure will be,.they ask for TG feedback. They gave us 2 options to consider for the structure with map images of each option and links to a downloadable copies. They ask us to print to share with our clubs/members.
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Don't think I missed the point. The top shooters are going to Divisional anyway, with or without winning a free shoot.

If the free entry is linked to the placement then it's a moot point, as stated above.

If the free entry is part of a random ticket draw, then it might impact one shooter.

 

The Divisional matches, one in each of the two divisions, is the only game in town so, those who will go, will. Those who will try to go, will. Those who aren't going anyway, won't.

 

For me, I'm going, and I didn't win an entry. I did it the old fashioned way. Waited patiently until the entry forms were available, registered, paid, sent it back. And, we're shooter number 1 and 2.

 

OK so I didn't wait as patiently as all that. Is it up? Is it up? Is it up? Yipee, it's up. We're in :D

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Looks like some folks will have to drive much farther and take more time off to compete. :blink:

How does that 'built attendence'? :unsure:

Respectfully,

OLG

Unfortunately no matter where you draw a line someone will be on the wrong side of it. What is interesting about the two maps is that one seems to be based on geographic size, i.e., trying to make the Regions closer in size. The other map seems to be based on shooter numbers, i.e., trying to make the Regions have roughly the same number of shooters. What is most interesting is that the number of members in each state is printed on the maps. Some very large states have very few members. That they might have to drive a longer distance to a shoot is simply a geographic fact of life. Total SASS membership is just under 25,000. Only four states have more than 1,000 members - California, Arizona, Texas and Florida.

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Biggest factor is lack of attendance. Regardless of the new structure shooters should be allowed to shoot at their closest regional, that's probably where they shoot most often.

Curious, do you hold the same opinion about state matches? Should I be able to win the Nevada or Arizona state match as a Californian, and if so can I win both?

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Looks like my regional will be in Edmund, OK instead of St. George, UT. Doesn't matter to me. The driving distance is about the same. Both are good SASS ranges with competent host clubs who put on good matches.

 

In Option B the High Plains region is enormous. I probably wouldn't drive from Nebraska for a regional in Washingon State.

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While I understand the desire to reduce the number of regions and therefore in theory increase attendance at the remaining ones I don't think this plan will make much difference. A problem that is current and will probably continue is that many of the regionals and certainly the Western Divisional match is on a far corner of the territory and will make it very hard for more shooters to attend than currently. Perhaps more effort should be made to support more clubs so the matches could be more centrally located in the regions or at least moved around every 3-5 years.

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While I understand the desire to reduce the number of regions and therefore in theory increase attendance at the remaining ones I don't think this plan will make much difference. A problem that is current and will probably continue is that many of the regionals and certainly the Western Divisional match is on a far corner of the territory and will make it very hard for more shooters to attend than currently. Perhaps more effort should be made to support more clubs so the matches could be more centrally located in the regions or at least moved around every 3-5 years.

If you were to centralize them, do you do it geographically or by active populous?

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This will help as well.....

 

The current set-up....

 

This is a link to the SASS Sanctioned match booklet. Go down 4-5 pages and you will get the current map....

 

http://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/SanctionedMatchBooklet2015FINAL.pdf

 

JJJ-D

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While I understand the desire to reduce the number of regions and therefore in theory increase attendance at the remaining ones I don't think this plan will make much difference. A problem that is current and will probably continue is that many of the regionals and certainly the Western Divisional match is on a far corner of the territory and will make it very hard for more shooters to attend than currently. Perhaps more effort should be made to support more clubs so the matches could be more centrally located in the regions or at least moved around every 3-5 years.

The challenge here is to find a location that has the facilities, infrasctructure, and space for a larger shoot with a club that is large enough to handle the logistics.

 

I think the day here where the idea of having several clubs coming together to sponsor a larger shoot.... which creates a new batch of challenges.....

 

JJJ-D

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Here ya go Larsen....

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Looking' at the numbers, then option B makes the most sense

 

 

Which obviously means that SASS will choose Option A....... :wacko:

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