Calamity Kris Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I have water damage on the wall adjacent to the tub, at the exact height as the top edge of the tub. During the walk through with the owner, he said it was caused by the shower curtain not being adequately closed. I'm having a difficult time believing that because the damage extends horizontally along the wall about 6 inches, with very little damage down the side of the tub. It looks to me like something is leaking behind the plastic enclosure and following a path along a stud. Also, the paint appears to be "bubbling" up from behind the wall. Is my thought process reasonable? If so, I'll pay a couple of plumbers to come out and verify. If I'm "all wet", I'll let the owner keep my deposit to cover the cost of the repairs. Thoughts? I'll take a picture this evening, if anyone wants to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Doesn't sound good... a picture would help. Not a plumber, but I've had a similar experience that led to a studs-out repair of the entire bathroom in addition to the plumbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 not a plumber but i bought a house, inspector found a leak in the shower. called for repair and the plumber discovered the shower was built in sheet rock. as they went to fix the leak, the shower tile crumbled off the wall and the rotten sheetrock was revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 not a plumber but i bought a house, inspector found a leak in the shower. called for repair and the plumber discovered the shower was built in sheet rock. as they went to fix the leak, the shower tile crumbled off the wall and the rotten sheetrock was revealed. Working on the exact same thing now. The floor is done. Had to strip the floor and shower completely down and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Kris-I'm think'n(scary, ain't it )that homeowner is a 'used car' salesman. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litl Red Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Water splashed off a shower curtain that then ran horizontally? Really? Your instincts are working perfectly. It's not just the paint that's messed up. Don't accept any resolution until the area that obviously needs repair has been looked at by someone reputable who repairs water damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Rented a house once. It had sat empty for a winter. The shower pipe about the handles had not been drained and the pipe cracked in a few places. The house sat on a slab. After a few months we noticed mildew. the owner discovered the problem and fixed everything. Last week my friend in NY had a water problem. Tub on 6th floor flooded FOR HOURS. Her ceiling on the 5th floor came down and poked some holes in the wall also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jittery Jim Jonah, SASS #64913L Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have water damage on the wall adjacent to the tub, at the exact height as the top edge of the tub. During the walk through with the owner, he said it was caused by the shower curtain not being adequately closed. I'm having a difficult time believing that because the damage extends horizontally along the wall about 6 inches, with very little damage down the side of the tub. It looks to me like something is leaking behind the plastic enclosure and following a path along a stud. Also, the paint appears to be "bubbling" up from behind the wall. Is my thought process reasonable? If so, I'll pay a couple of plumbers to come out and verify. If I'm "all wet", I'll let the owner keep my deposit to cover the cost of the repairs. Thoughts? I'll take a picture this evening, if anyone wants to see it. Ya got a leak in the wall at the very least.... JJJ-D :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Kris-I'm think'n(scary, ain't it )that homeowner is a 'used car' salesman. OLG You've got that right, OLG. He told the realtor accompanying him that it was only dry wall damage....... I realize I should let things be revealed in the home inspection when he puts it on the market, but I want my deposit back and I don't want the buyers coming after me when the wall crumbles around them because he just patched things up. "Well the tenant didn't tell us......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Sounds like leak to me. Be ready for any possible mold behind everything. Seen it a few times. Not a plumber, but have helped a few folks with what sounds like that same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Kris, are you a renter doing a checkout inspection with the landlord? I'm a little confused about everyone's status here. In any case, there is a leak behind the wall. Water is like people and electricity in that it takes the path of least resistance. On a wall, that means dripping straight down. If it is running on a horizontal line, that means something behind the wall is forcing it to do so. Just my dos centavos. A picture word be worth a peso or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The paint should repel any moisture on the outside of the drywall. If the drywall is soft the source of moisture is internal and is coming from behind the drywall. Moisture resistant drywall (greenboard or blueboard) should be used in bathrooms. I'd just cut a hole in the drywall, do an inspection, make the repair, patch the hole and repaint. Not a big deal. If a land lord gets butt hurt over something that simple he should get out of the rental business. It happens in every bathroom, just part of having indoor plumbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Kris, are you a renter doing a checkout inspection with the landlord? I'm a little confused about everyone's status here. In any case, there is a leak behind the wall. Water is like people and electricity in that it takes the path of least resistance. On a wall, that means dripping straight down. If it is running on a horizontal line, that means something behind the wall is forcing it to do so. Just my dos centavos. A picture word be worth a peso or two. Yes I am just the renter. The owner brought his real estate agent over to survey repairs etc. needed on the house prior to him putting it on the market. No one from the management company was present. He said the reason for the sale was because his wife is being transferred to another city and they couldn't see having a rental house far away from where they live. {If you have a good management company, that shouldn't be an issue................} Not my concern. I want to do everything I can to make sure I get my deposit back. I also don't want the purchasers coming after me, if they can, for things that happen to the house because the owner tells them they weren't revealed by the tenant. A good home inspector should be able to find those things but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 The wall Thank you to Hardpan for posting this for me!!!! http://s121.photobucket.com/user/Hardpan/media/Water%20Damage_zpsafgmb9dj.jpg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ewwwww! Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Looks like a leak to me... Is the wall kinda soft and mushy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancocas Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The only way to know for sure is to open up the wall. Has to be done anyway to repair the damage, not to mention possible mold.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Is this the front(faucet side)or the back of the tub? Front-leaky pipes. Back-sealant is not do'n it's job. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Looks like a leak to me... Is the wall kinda soft and mushy? Yes. At the bottom of the picture, you can see where the owner pulled a small piece of the wall away. Is this the front(faucet side)or the back of the tub? Front-leaky pipes. Back-sealant is not do'n it's job. OLG Yes this is the faucet end of the tub. Thanks for the info. I'll get a couple of plumbers out to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yes. At the bottom of the picture, you can see where the owner pulled a small piece of the wall away. Yes this is the faucet end of the tub. Thanks for the info. I'll get a couple of plumbers out to take a look. Have a camera ready also. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Good advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The wall Thank you to Hardpan for posting this for me!!!! :wub: http://s121.photobucket.com/user/Hardpan/media/Water%20Damage_zpsafgmb9dj.jpg.html Kris I was a carpenter for close to 30 years and I am telling you that is not a show curtain splash back, that is a leak that has been going for longer then you have lived there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 If you are renting, that shpuld be the landlords repair problem, not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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