Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm watching "Expendables 3.". What i enjoy about it is how the stars are maturing. But I notice: like in 100 other such films, everyone goes through their soldier career for decades shooting every kind of loud gun, without hearing protection, and they can still have a normal conversation????? For those of you who have Actually been in combat, how does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk Creek LeMieux Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I didn't hear the question, you'll have to ask my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Gun For Hire Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 What did you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 LOL... I SAID, HOW CAN YOU STILL HEAR AFTER BEING IN COMBAT WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION?? Or do you, in fact use sine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elk Creek LeMieux Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 There are a lot of different options for hearing protection. Peltor makes a headset, similar to an aviation headset, that's low pro and fits under a helmet. It has a "hear through" option that amplifies low noises, and filters all loud noises down to a max of something like 80-90 decibels. There's also a few standard earplug options that are thin rubber disks on a post, and generally you can hear normal conversation wearing them, but the disks reflect most of the loud noise. But even with hear-pro, some hearing loss is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm glad. But I don't see Sly wearing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pot SASS#55659 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Back in my day, around Audie Custer's time, only the artillerymen had hearing protection. And few of them used it, usually just fingers. I had two ex-artillerymen on my A team. Our conversations were usually..... loud. I've had tinnitus since 1970. Airborne troops had earplugs for sustained flights. But in combat your ears are assaulted. Fortunately for action heroes, the loud explosions are usually added in the editing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 These guns are so loud, I'm surprised anyone could hear at all after using them a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Superman has great hearing. I think Spiderman can hear pretty well also. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 When you are walking patrol you can not have your hearing diminished. You have to hear and later, tinnitus keeps you company... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 These guns are so loud, I'm surprised anyone could hear at all after using them a lot. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Batman probably hears okay, but the Flash will not when he's supersonIc. Aquaman: YES, underwater Han Solo, John Candy and the gang, strolling along in their Winebego, probably can't hear because Steppenwolf is too loud. Bruce Lee used Sonar: hence his "cat" growl. Ripley? She could hear well, for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Over a 26 year career, I managed to make it to almost all the prime vacation spots where I was being shot at and shooting back. I have considerable hearing loss and have had tinnitus since my first "vacation" in Viet Nam. I can almost carry on a "normal" conversation. Coffinmaker PS: You do have to be looking/speaking directly at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Back in my day, around Audie Custer's time, only the artillerymen had hearing protection. And few of them used it, usually just fingers. I had two ex-artillerymen on my A team. Our conversations were usually..... loud. I've had tinnitus since 1970. Airborne troops had earplugs for sustained flights. But in combat your ears are assaulted. Fortunately for action heroes, the loud explosions are usually added in the editing process. I was a R.E.M.F., a term from the Vietnam era, im told, meaning "Rear echelon (person).". I claim it, even though I missed the Vietnam Era by about 6 weeks. The loudest noise I heard my whole time was my teletype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Doggle Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Two old men playing golf. First old man hits his ball and then says to his buddy, "I can't see so well anymore, did you see where my ball landed?" Second old man replies, "Yes, but I forgot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorty Jack Hammer Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Auditory exclusion accounts for some of it. The body naturally shuts down what it considers to be unnecessary senses during fight or flight situations, hearing being one it shuts down. It's why hunters don't remember hearing the sound of the shot when taking an animal. At the range they fire the same gun and if they didn't have on hearing protection they would surely wish they had. The body shuts off the hearing, not that repeated exposure to gunfire wouldn't eventually affect your hearing of course. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama Red Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 During my Navy days, both my berthing are and my main work area had the flight deck for the ceiling. Transmitter Room #1 was directly under the forward tub-mounted dual 3"-50's. I have a lot of hearing loss and tinnitus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Jeemes Kelly Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Soldiers can't hear. I started in the Army as an artilleryman, became an infantryman later - in the artillery, somebody will slap the $%#@ out of you if you try wearing earplugs (at least, 30 years ago). That's why we have the phrase "artillery ears." I believe action stars use blanks that aren't very loud and get cooler sound dubbed in later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ T. Sites Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I've got hearing loss and ill fill in the blanks when I'm listening to some one talk, funny thing is I don't know I'm doing it till I get it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I can always recall the very first shot with a M-60 machine gun. My head exploded along with the round. After a volley I looked at the guy that was with me and only saw his lips moving, just loaded back up and back ta firing. 20% disability now with free hearing aids via Uncle Sam. A friend was a artilleryman, we say a lot of HUhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I has a co-worked ask me how log I had been reading lips. I told him I didn't and he quickly proved I do to some degree. If i can't see your mouth, especially in noisy environments, I can't understand you. By putting what I can hear and what I can see, my brain has learned to put it together, but it isn't always successful. Tinnitus is a constant thing I've learned to ignore and live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm watching "Expendables 3.". What i enjoy about it is how the stars are maturing. But I notice: like in 100 other such films, everyone goes through their soldier career for decades shooting every kind of loud gun, without hearing protection, and they can still have a normal conversation????? For those of you who have Actually been in combat, how does that work? It doesn't work. If you want to talk about it, I'll have to put my hearing aids in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I was a R.E.M.F., a term from the Vietnam era, im told, meaning "Rear echelon (person).". I claim it, even though I missed the Vietnam Era by about 6 weeks. The loudest noise I heard my whole time was my teletype. Why aren't you here? Sign up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Why aren't you here? Sign up now! Kinda not into developing that much of a web presence. I'm private. I was USN, NSGA, Ft. Meade..., but truth be known, I'm not into internet info sharing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Money Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 In basic training in 1960 there was no concern for hearing protection so none was provided. With the M1 it soon became necessary for me to devise my own protection. Although I never smoked them, a pack of Winstons in the fatigue jacket pocket provided filter tips, and when torn off and placed in the ear canal, made an effective ear plug while allowing the shooter to hear normal conversation. I used that method on many occasions after my military service was over. However, I'm still hard of hearing. Must be from all my bosses screaming at me through the years. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I was a R.E.M.F., a term from the Vietnam era, im told, meaning "Rear echelon (person).". I claim it, even though I missed the Vietnam Era by about 6 weeks. The loudest noise I heard my whole time was my teletype. I don't understand what it is you're claiming. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I don't understand what it is you're claiming. kR She means she never saw front line action. Was in the rear with the gear. Rear Echelon M.F. (You can work the last part out for yourself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Nelson Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The loudest noise I heard my whole time was my teletype. Continuous noise is almost as bad as loud impulse noise. My wife was convinced I had hearing loss from working around computers with fans all the time. At least I think that's what she said. What kind of teletype? We had a Model 19 and a Model 28. Dad was a Navy RTTY operator and taught Radioman school until he retired in 1971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 Lol. I never heard the term at Ft Meade. Heard it later. And I slways thought it funny. "Rear w d Gear" is a phrase I grant to those of u who were up "front in the hunt." a phrase i just now made up fir you. I was as far back w the rear as u could go. BUT also vital. Vital. I did good work. But, no, no shooting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 What kind of teletype? We had a Model 19 and a Model 28. Dad was a Navy RTTY operator and taught Radioman school until he retired in 1971. "ah, now," I say, mimicking Bob Hope. "No hints." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Back in my day, around Audie Custer's time, only the artillerymen had hearing protection. And few of them used it, usually just fingers. I had two ex-artillerymen on my A team. Our conversations were usually..... loud. I've had tinnitus since 1970. Airborne troops had earplugs for sustained flights. But in combat your ears are assaulted. Fortunately for action heroes, the loud explosions are usually added in the editing process. I never had hearing protection and I stayed as far away from those noise makers as possible. You normally needed a road map and secret code to find my maintenance truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sarge Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "ah, now," I say, mimicking Bob Hope. "No hints." When you were at FT Meade, did they use tin cans and string? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aunt Jen Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Oh, you're technological? I seem to remember something about damp blankets over smokey fires: smoke signals. But I'm not sure. That may have been F Troop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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