Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 ..but I was watching the memorial service in Tucson and had to turn it off. I've been to more memorial services than I care to remember in my lifetime and I've never seen anything quite like that. I thought with all the cheering and hollering I was watching a basketball pep rally or a Tucson Chamber of Congress meeting. What happened to respect for the fallen? What happened to dignity? Aren't you supposed to concentrate on the departed rather than VIPs and the university? I guess it's just me but I think if I would have been a family member of one of the victims I would be just a little put off. Maybe it got better but I just couldn't watch it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 It's improving, Bobbie. BHO is giving a fair speech, calling for cooling of the rhetoric. Not a big fan of his, but this one isn't too bad...........Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I think there is respect UB...folks are tryin' to cope, hopefully unify, and be stronger because of this. Although. it's too bad events like this and 9/11 get our focus back on being together as Americans.. GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I made da remark to my wife dat it sounds like a campain speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 It's improving, Bobbie. BHO is giving a fair speech, calling for cooling of the rhetoric. Not a big fan of his, but this one isn't too bad...........Buck I hope you're right. I'm right there with Bob. I couldn't watch. We'll have to see about the rhetoric. I'll just let it go for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I am with Bob on this one. I thought we had started for the 2012 campaign already. I did not watch it, but my news junkie wife did. I could hear it from the other room. If one did not know the circumstances, it did not sound like a memorial service to me. More like a sporting event or a campaign rally. The whole terrible episode is more than just men can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASS# 23321 Canelo Kid Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 UB, +1 I believe a bit more decorum for the occasion was called for. I found the cheering and clapping a bit much even though it should have been a celebration of life. The U of A should have made it known to all the students attending it was a Memorial, not a pre-game rally. Sadly, CKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I agree Bob. That was not a Memorial service by any stretch of the imagination. I shut it off too. I also question having an event like that to begin with. I can't see any reason for it whatsoever. If a member of my family had been killed, I certainly would be grieving in private with family and close friends. Not out in public at what can only be described as a pep rally. Nothing like that has ever been done in the history of our country, and I hope never happens again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Bit Bobb Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 kinda figured... dint even watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Watching MSNBC. I can see they didn't get the "Cool it" memo. Attach Palin, then attach her for defending herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Sad to say, but it's turned into a photo op. Campaign 2012 has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Mrs. Doc and I turned it off. Cheering and standing ovations at a Memorial Service? His speech would start to move in a good direction, the right words coming out, then... BAM... Campaign mode. His delivery is also not what I would call "comforting." I keep hearing about his oratorical skill, speaking ability, etc... I can say for a fact he is no Ronald Reagan in that regard. I was only a couple of years out of high school when the Challenger exploded, and I can still recall Reagan's words, and the effect of his delivery. What a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Joe, SASS #24061 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Have to disagree. Yes, some of it was over the top but overall I thought the entire thing set a much needed tone. The dead and wounded were honored, as were those whose actions possibly prevented additional carnage. I'm not a fan of BHO and disagree with almost everything he says or does. But his speech was, IMHO, very well done. He even, although not as strongly as I'd have hoped, told the idiots who are blaming any one even hinting as being right of center "Cut it out". Maybe it wasn't the kind of memorial service that some would have liked. But every memorial doesn't have to be sackcloth and ashes. No wailing and rending of garments. No somber eulogies. I've given far too many of those. I thought the entire service was, for the most part, appropriate and respectful. I think it was just what the city of Tucson and the country needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Taft Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 kinda figured... dint even watch it. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Have to disagree. Yes, some of it was over the top but overall I thought the entire thing set a much needed tone. The dead and wounded were honored, as were those whose actions possibly prevented additional carnage. I'm not a fan of BHO and disagree with almost everything he says or does. But his speech was, IMHO, very well done. He even, although not as strongly as I'd have hoped, told the idiots who are blaming any one even hinting as being right of center "Cut it out". Maybe it wasn't the kind of memorial service that some would have liked. But every memorial doesn't have to be sackcloth and ashes. No wailing and rending of garments. No somber eulogies. I've given far too many of those. I thought the entire service was, for the most part, appropriate and respectful. I think it was just what the city of Tucson and the country needed. Being one of the largest BHO detractors out there, I agree he ACTUALLY sounded like a leader of the whole country tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Bit Bobb Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 were hiz lips moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Being one of the largest BHO detractors out there, I agree he ACTUALLY sounded like a leader of the whole country tonight. He could have "sounded like a leader of the whole country" in Jan '09, Feb'09 Mar '09.........even this past Sun., Mon., Tues., but he waited until tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Havta be agreeable with UB here. Personally, I don't listen to anything that two-bits of buffalo chips has to say anyhow. He don't mean none of it. He's just trying ta' get some points in his favor is all. And I ain't putting any stock in his wife really caring either. AS long as she's got her $400.00 tennis shoes....she's happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Charley, SASS Life #14739 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I turned it off as POTUS was being introduced. It sounded like an announcer who was introducing the home team at an NBA game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO DOG DUTCHMAN Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 UB, I agree with you completely. I did not think that it was not supposed to be a pep ralley. His message was good, but, He could have ended the applause & ovations with one simple statement & he chose not too - dutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Couldn't change the channel fast enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Mosby Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I have to agree with UB on this one. Holder, Napolitano and BO were there to gain points, nothing else. I agree the folks that went above and beyond to help the victims need to be acknowledged, but not there. It was a campaign event, pure and simple, showing disrespect for the victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Can't really comment, I didn't even think of watching it. It was going to be all about Politics nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. H. O' Sullivan Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Remember the Paul Wellstone "memorial" back in 2002..........? This whole shooting is a terrible event, and certainly a tragedy, but I am trying to imagine how much hoopla there would be if a Republican Member of Congress would have been shot, with other innocent citizens killed. Let's get our feet back on the ground and remember this is a Nation of 308 million people and try to put things into a proper perspective. Any murder is a terrible thing, and you hear of whole families being killed in home invasions, but their loss is only a blip in the news cycle. The President is certainly a great orator, and this speech was certainly on par with his best campaign barn burners. I just think this whole event has now become a tool for political change, and this needs to be stopped in it's tracks ASAP! T.H. O'Sullivan Black Mesa Ranch New Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 I did not post this to make any political statement pro or con about the current administration. Just my thoughts on the general tenor of the service from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I did not post this to make any political statement pro or con about the current administration. Just my thoughts on the general tenor of the service from the beginning. of course not...who would've known it would bend that direction GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. H. O' Sullivan Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 My wife and I watched (we are both graduates of the University of Arizona) and we thought it was getting weird right from the start. What's the deal with this pseudo Yaqui Chief, Medicine Man named Carlos Gonzales making constant references to Mexico? It was political right from start. Arizona has a huge population of real Native Americans, but maybe Carlos was available on short notice. T.H. O'Sullivan Black Mesa Ranch New Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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