Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) Saw this at my LGS I didn’t buy it but I may go back $450 This is not the actual piece but it’s very similar. I believe the hand ejector was the first .38 spl by Smith. It has a 4” barrel and locks up tight. Smooth action. I have to look up the year it was made. Oh yea the bore looks great too. Edited September 3 by Rye Miles #13621 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I don’t know what the going rate for these cool old revolvers is these days but $450 sounds like a good deal. The online auction sites show asking or list prices of double that and more. I would be very tempted to buy one at that price. I did find this on Clearance at the Cabela’s near Wheeling WV for $499. It sure looks like a .38 M&P but they have it listed as a “Hand Ejector” model. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/101148844 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 9 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: I don’t know what the going rate for these cool old revolvers is these days but $450 sounds like a good deal. The online auction sites show asking or list prices of double that and more. I would be very tempted to buy one at that price. I did find this on Clearance at the Cabela’s near Wheeling WV for $499. It sure looks like a .38 M&P but they have it listed as a “Hand Ejector” model. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/101148844 That looks real close to the one I looked at. I think I'll buy it at $450.00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) Pat, Smith has had three basic types of actions. The first one the hinge was on the top of the frame and the barrel swung up over the top of the frame and pointed at you, like with a derringer. This was referred to as the tip up. The second one has the hinge at the bottom of the frame, and it would break open and go down like a double barrel shotgun. This is known as a break top, or simply break open. As the barrel and cylinder are going down, the ejector star is going up, automatically ejecting the cases. The third type has a solid frame, making it stronger and allowing them to put more powerful cartridges in it. And you push the latch on the side and the cylinder swings out. With this one you have to push the ejector rod yourself. Instead of it automatically ejecting, you have to eject them by hand. So this type is called the hand ejector. Although they no longer use the term, all Smith and Wesson revolvers with a swing out cylinder are hand ejectors. So they are correct andIN referring to that as a hand ejector. But it is also a 38 M&P. If I'm reading my Standard Catalog correctly, all of the post war guns have a four line address. That one just has the one line, which makes it pre-World War II. But it doesn't have the acorn on the ejector rod, which would make it awful late 1930s. Edited September 3 by Alpo dammit otto, and here I thought I had managed to sneak one by you 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 What is the hole under the thumb latch? None of my pre-'82 S&Ws have that hole. Show a photo of the right side of the one you buy (counting screws) and the leading digits of the serial number on the bottom of the grip so we can approximate the date of shipment. Even with the mystery hole, $450 sounds very good! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 I’ll take a pic of it next week. They’re not open until Tuesday! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Thank you @Alpo @Rye Miles #13621 The crowd chants… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 5 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: That looks real close to the one I looked at. I think I'll buy it at $450.00 Gopher Itt. If you don't you'll regret it. I don't have enough time left on Earth to regret all the ones I let go by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: What is the hole under the thumb latch? None of my pre-'82 S&Ws have that hole I just did a quick check, and all of my pre-war hand injectors - 3 32 HEs, a 1917, 3 M&P 32 Winchesters and a mid-30s 2 inch M&P 38 - all have this hole. It's a screw hole. You can easily see the end of the screw in this first picture of my 1917. You can see the end of the screw pretty good in this 32 hand ejector also. But none of my post-war guns have it. I believe it is the hammer pivot pin. This is a Perfected, which is a top break, but it also has the thumb latch. And if you notice directly below the thumb latch slot, there is a hole and a stud (no. P18) that screws into the hole. In part of my research as to the purpose of that hole, I found that Smith and Wesson changed the way they made the frame in 1945. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 11 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Saw this at my LGS I didn’t buy it but I may go back $450 This is not the actual piece but it’s very similar. I believe the hand ejector was the first .38 spl by Smith. It has a 4” barrel and locks up tight. Smooth action. I have to look up the year it was made. Oh yea the bore looks great too. Go buy it. You'll kick yourself if'n you don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Got a few of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 That bottom one - 38/44 heavy duty or 44 hand ejector? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 hours ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: Got a few of them. Very nice. I love that center one. A championship award at the Crescent Athletic Club 1925-26. That’s really neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 9 hours ago, Alpo said: That bottom one - 38/44 heavy duty or 44 hand ejector? 44 Hand Ejector. Factory nickel, correct barrel length, grips serial numbered to the gun. S&W letter indicates it was shipped in 1940. Serial number indicates it was one of about the last 800 shipped before WWII brought a halt to production on the 44 Hand Ejector. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I have one in 32/20 Largo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 Well &$@“%#^>€ looks like I was a little late. Gun is sold! The guy that bought it is on delay so there’s a real outside chance if he gets denied but I doubt it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Here's fingers crossed for ya! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 Well it’s gone! I snoozed and I lost! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Patience, Grasshopper. There will be others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 9/5/2023 at 3:53 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said: Well &$@“%#^>€ looks like I was a little late. Gun is sold! The guy that bought it is on delay so there’s a real outside chance if he gets denied but I doubt it. 6 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Well it’s gone! I snoozed and I lost! There have been a few guns I have missed out on. I know how you feel. Sorry you missed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Took me 10 years to get a 32/20 Smith. And now I got three. Another one's gonna show up. That's what I tell myself, when I think of the Hong Kong police Model 10 that I did not get. Another one will be along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Here’s my hand ejector made in 1913. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Yeah, I've got a couple few o' dem. Top right is a .32-20 with some timing issues - anyone want to buy a project gun? The middle one of the 5 is a Victory model .38 S&W, and the other 4 are .38 Specials. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adolph Vancinghand, SASS #28923 Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 I knew there was a reason I kept hangin' out with all you reprobates... A brace of .32-20s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I'll play although not quite the same, but close. This one born in 1934. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Bah! That’s a Colt, not a Smith! (sweet pistol!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 11 Author Share Posted September 11 You guys are killing me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 My K-10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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