Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 In 1960 I took a two yer college course in German and became quite proficient understanding and speaking it. Neve could write it. Now I have a Great Courses Spanish course "just because", but I'd like to find someone close who speaks it and would let me practice on them face to face. I'll even tumble for lunch once a week for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 There’s Spanish and there’s Mexican. They are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 My daughter in law is from Spain and says Mexican is hard for her to understand. I once worked with a translator from Columbia who said Mexican Spanish was different from her Spanish. Being in Arizona, you might find Mexican Spanish more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: There’s Spanish and there’s Mexican. They are different. Castillian Spanish, Mexican Spanish, Colombian Spanish, Dominican Republic Spanish, Cuban Spanish. Venezuelan Spanish, Costa Rican Spanish, Puerto Rican Spanish (the stuff spoken in P.R. is different from that which they speak in New York City or Chicago), Argentinian (Peruvian and Uruguayan all of which are very similar), etc., etc, are all derived from the Mother Tongue (Spain), BUT all sound different Spanish is my vernacular but sometimes I have a hard time understanding others whose vernacular is the same. I guess that happens everywhere where there are large land areas. Heck look at Hochdeutsch and Swabian in Germany. In Italy it's a total mess with Italian, Neapolitan, Sicilian, Sardinian etc., etc. But to be able to get along with Mexicans you just need to say: "Andale, andale, manito" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Faster, faster, little hand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Same with English, my bil is English and when his relatives visit and they are all talking I can hardly understand any of them , especially when their drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 said: Andale, andale, Touring the Alhambra in Spain with a group, when our guide said 'vamanous' [sp?]-- i.e. move along, one of our group said "andale". The guide said "That's Mexican, not Spanish". I have a good friend who is a physician from Colombia, and know a friend of his, a doc from Mexico. I have had interesting discussions with them about various Latin American "Spanishes". The Colombian claims the purest form. Both say that Venezualans are incomprehensible, but Argentinans are pretty good. Cuban is a real outlier, they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 My high school Spanish teacher was from Cuba. My college Spanish teacher was from Spain. I've been to Costa Rica. I've been in Mexico and not just Spring break border towns. It's all a little different and nuanced from my experiences. Mexican Spanish is probably most useful in many parts of the United States. Practicing speaking with a fluent or near fluent speaker is a great way to learn. I do personally know of one person who however learned Spanish from watching soap operas on the Spanish channel on cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I took three years of German in High School. Then the Army sent me to Germany. No problem I thought. They sent me to southern Bavaria. Imagine if you were Japanese and had just leaned English. Thought you were pretty fluent. Then you visited Dothan Alabama. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 It's quite fun deciphering the difference between what the books say and what the people say. For example - Celito Lindo You look up the lyrics, and it says ai yi yi yi, canta y no llores Now to me, that should be CANTA EE NO YOR-ES. But I have a record of Desi Arnaz singing it, and he says CAN-TIE NO YOR-ES. He put the Y - the word AND - on the end of conta and made a new word out of it. I suspect this is like your textbook says GOING TO, and the man you're listening to says GONNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: There’s Spanish and there’s Mexican. They are different. They are as different as Texan and New Englander and Aussie. I'm learning the Mexican version but should be able to understand all the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Alpo said: It's quite fun deciphering the difference between what the books say and what the people say. For example - Celito Lindo You look up the lyrics, and it says ai yi yi yi, canta y no llores Now to me, that should be CANTA EE NO YOR-ES. But I have a record of Desi Arnaz singing it, and he says CAN-TIE NO YOR-ES. He put the Y - the word AND - on the end of conta and made a new word out of it. I suspect this is like your textbook says GOING TO, and the man you're listening to says GONNA. Desi was Cuban American, yet another flavor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Go to any Home Depot early in the morning and you will find all kinds of Spanish speakers standing in the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Imagine if you were Japanese and had just leaned English. Thought you were pretty fluent. Then you visited Dothan Alabama. Yeah. I've been to Dothan numerous times. And I agree. The only thing worse is the little towns out in the middle of nowhere lke Standing Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 And don't forget whatever it is that Teeter speaks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: I took three years of German in High School. Then the Army sent me to Germany. No problem I thought. They sent me to southern Bavaria. Imagine if you were Japanese and had just leaned English. Thought you were pretty fluent. Then you visited Dothan Alabama. I know a high school German teacher, born and raised in Eastern Germany. When she goes to Germany, she says that half the time she has to ask somebody to speak Hoch Deutsch. She can't understand the dialects. We took a river cruise a few years ago, much of it in southern Germany. There was a young girl working on the line for the first time. She was from Hanover. I asked her about the language there down South. She said that she couldn't understand a word of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: I know a high school German teacher, born and raised in Eastern Germany. When she goes to Germany, she says that half the time she has to ask somebody to speak Hoch Deutsch. She can't understand the dialects. We took a river cruise a few years ago, much of it in southern Germany. There was a young girl working on the line for the first time. She was from Hanover. I asked her about the language there down South. She said that she couldn't understand a word of it. I got by pretty well with “Ein bier bitte.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I got by pretty well with “Ein bier bitte.” Tschüss , Stationed at Graf , well family was as I was In Iraq and Afghanistan most of 4 years . KBR ran Chow at most fobs so Indian labor mostly , Talk about messed up , Went from that to German to Hawaiian LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: I've been to Dothan numerous times. And I agree. The only thing worse is the little towns out in the middle of nowhere lke Standing Rock. Don’t get me started on Mississippi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: They are as different as Texan and New Englander and Aussie. I'm learning the Mexican version but should be able to understand all the rest. .................... hey!, ... I resemble that !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I went to high school in Gainesville, GA After the first two years I got pretty good at identifying what part of the south a speaker was from. I'm pretty good at acquiring the "sing-song" of a particular place after being there for a while. My wife and I went to Argentina for a couple of weeks and after four days my wife turned to me and said "You're talking just like them". My job required me to go to Oklahoma City quite frequently. I remember one time that my wife said to me "You are doing it again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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