Light bulbs?

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

I have run out of 60W incandescent bulbs. I still have a half dozen 75s, but I know I can’t use them everywhere. It looks like only lcd bulbs are now available. Is that right or do you have another source?

[Texas Joker]

If you buy specialty bulbs they can still br incandescent. High vibration application, heat, oven/appliance whatever. 

 

The reg just got rid of consumer lights not specialty.

 

Try looking for an oven light.

[Pat Riot]

17 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

I have run out of 60W incandescent bulbs. I still have a half dozen 75s, but I know I can’t use them everywhere. It looks like only lcd bulbs are now available. Is that right or do you have another source?

If you search on Amazon using these words you will find that there are 60 watt incandescent bulbs available. I just looked some up. You will have to scroll down because they list some LED bulbs first. 
Copy and paste:

60 watt incandescent light bulbs

Edited November 8 by Pat Riot

[Texas Lizard]

I am also having problems with light bulbs...My state has  seemed to have outlawed  old fashion lights...Now I am trying to fit the right amount of brightness and color...The new ones I put in, are to white and to bright...So, I to go back get other lights that warmer and see how they look...What ever happened to 100 watts or 60 watts....Simple and easy.....LEDs crap.....

 

Texas Lizard

 

They if go one state over...I can still get the real light bulbs....I wonder if I can sneak by the border guards.....

[Rip Snorter]

It is a pain, but look up the color temps recommended for rooms in the home.   2700K-3500K are generally suggested.  The bulbs should be rated.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

Finding incandescent bulbs is such a pain that I've just quit bothering. Long gone are the days of 4 for a Dollar bulbs. So I go ahead and buy the LEDs at Walmart. You can get 4, 60 Watt equivalent bulbs for about $6. But get the SOFT WHITE bulbs, NOT the daylight. The soft white bulbs look about the same as incandescent bulbs, and being LEDs use less power and last longer.  

[Eyesa Horg]

Is there a brand of LEDs that DO actually last longer? My kitchen light that's just under 20 feet from the floor went a few years with incandescent bulbs. Now with LEDs, I usually only get 3-6 months before they start acting up. Sometimes their dim, sometimes don't light at all and sometimes work like they should. Same with the bathroom lights. I've been getting them from Home Despot. And real strange, some don't light at all on a generator!

[Pat Riot]

1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Is there a brand of LEDs that DO actually last longer? My kitchen light that's just under 20 feet from the floor went a few years with incandescent bulbs. Now with LEDs, I usually only get 3-6 months before they start acting up. Sometimes their dim, sometimes don't light at all and sometimes work like they should. Same with the bathroom lights. I've been getting them from Home Despot. And real strange, some don't light at all on a generator!

I have had really good luck with the LED bulbs sold at Costco and Sam’s Club and they are reasonably priced. The soft white bulbs look great and the light appears natural. 
 

You are so right about those “Daylight” bulbs. They are obnoxiously bright white. They should changed the name to “Daylights” as in when you get whacked in the head and you get the daylights knocked out of you. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Is there a brand of LEDs that DO actually last longer? My kitchen light that's just under 20 feet from the floor went a few years with incandescent bulbs. Now with LEDs, I usually only get 3-6 months before they start acting up. Sometimes their dim, sometimes don't light at all and sometimes work like they should. Same with the bathroom lights. I've been getting them from Home Despot. And real strange, some don't light at all on a generator!

Ive got several around the house and they seem to be lasting a long time. Longer than the incandescent bulbs. One brand is called Future Lumen, I’ve got 3 of them.

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

I have had way better performance from LED bulbs.  I do use "soft white" though and the do last longer in my applications than incandescent bulbs, which by the way, generated WAY more heat.

[Cypress Sun]

 

Lamp "colors" are really temperature color ratings. If you're looking for a sunshine type color, the 2,700K rendition is a good starting point. Office type lighting is generally in the 4,000K rating, Lamps in the 5,000K and 6,000K range are generally used for bright light applications and can be blinding.

 

The main reason for premature LED lamp failure is voltage surges and fluctuations. LED lamps use a kind of transformer (for lack or a better description) called a driver. The drivers don't like voltage that is out of their specifications. The LED lamps themselves do not like liquid intrusion either.

 

[Eyesa Horg]

3 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

The main reason for premature LED lamp failure is voltage surges and fluctuations

This may be our issue then. We get a few outages a year and when they happen it usually pulses on and off really fast for half a minute sometimes before it's out for keeps. So far my surge protectors have saved us. 

[El Chapo]

The government has made it very difficult to sell Edison light bulbs for anything other than specialized things (e.g., oven bulbs).  Virtually every lamp in my house has LEDs now.

[Rip Snorter]

If you haven't found them, there are bulbs that switch on and run for several hours when power fails.  Look online. Battery backup LED.

[Eyesa Horg]

Just now, Rip Snorter said:

If you haven't found them, there are bulbs that switch on and run for several hours when power fails.  Look online. Battery backup LED.

We have a couple of those. Most convenient.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Well, learned a lot.

 

oven bulbs are almost all 40W.  Searching for 60W incandescent leads me to a few specialty bulbs and lots of 60W equivalent bulbs which means LED.

 

those twisty fluorescent bulbs have disappeared from the marketplace (yeay)

 

soft white is considered best for relaxed lighting, living rooms, bedrooms.

 

bright white for kitchens.

 

my earlier experience with long life LEDs was anything but long life. Maybe now they will be better.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

46 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Lamp "colors" are really temperature color ratings. If you're looking for a sunshine type color, the 2,700K rendition is a good starting point. Office type lighting is generally in the 4,000K rating, Lamps in the 5,000K and 6,000K range are generally used for bright light applications and can be blinding.

 

The main reason for premature LED lamp failure is voltage surges and fluctuations. LED lamps use a kind of transformer (for lack or a better description) called a driver. The drivers don't like voltage that is out of their specifications. The LED lamps themselves do not like liquid intrusion either.

 

The color temp scale, referred to as Temperature in Kelvin, is an excellent way to judge what your lights will look like. The "Soft White" bulbs are close to 5000K, the "Daylight" bulbs are about 6000K. 

You know those automotive LEDs with that d**m blue tint? Those are 6000 to 6500K. I can't STAND them, and I can't see with them. (Yellow Fog Lights are about 3500K). 

[watab kid]

1 hour ago, El Chapo said:

The government has made it very difficult to sell Edison light bulbs for anything other than specialized things (e.g., oven bulbs).  Virtually every lamp in my house has LEDs now.

ya , its time for the government to get their nose out of commercial business , we have allowed them too much already - they are supposed to serve us not dictate how we live -- that is communism 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

19 hours ago, Texas Lizard said:

I am also having problems with light bulbs...My state has  seemed to have outlawed  old fashion lights...Now I am trying to fit the right amount of brightness and color...The new ones I put in, are to white and to bright...So, I to go back get other lights that warmer and see how they look...What ever happened to 100 watts or 60 watts....Simple and easy.....LEDs crap.....

 

Texas Lizard

 

They if go one state over...I can still get the real light bulbs....I wonder if I can sneak by the border guards.....

Pay some illegal alien to carry them over for you.  No one stops them any more and the coyotes might arrange for free transportation for a return favor..

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

46 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Pay some illegal alien to carry them over for you.  No one stops them any more and the coyotes might arrange for free transportation for a return favor..

Cross border products would not be worth the upcharge.

[Texas Lizard]

4 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Pay some illegal alien to carry them over for you.  No one stops them any more and the coyotes might arrange for free transportation for a return favor..

OK   you owe me a new key board......

 

Texas Lizard

 

If I did....Would have to do it before January....Things might be changing.....

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

You got time.  Just don't lazy and forget it.

[watab kid]

i have been converting to LEDs here , ive not seen much difference in the bill tho , i think there is a conspiracy ....thinking about a president thats senile and a VP that bypassed the process , seems like the commies among us are driving things ? 

 

lets let the FREE MARKEYT drive things again , not the government 

Edited November 10 by watab kid

[Cypress Sun]

1 hour ago, watab kid said:

i have been converting to LEDs here , ive not seen much difference in the bill tho , i think there is a conspiracy ....thinking about a president thats senile and a VP that bypassed the process , seems like the commies among us are driving things ? 

 

lets let the FREE MARKEYT drive things again , not the government 

 

Actually Obama started the death roll on the incandescent lamp. Trump stopped the roll until he left office. Biden started it back up and as of last August, they are now "banned" with the exception of some "specialty" lamps such as the ones for appliance usage. You can expect the same for CFL type lamps soon.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Actually Obama started the death roll on the incandescent lamp. Trump stopped the roll until he left office. Biden started it back up and as of last August, they are now "banned" with the exception of some "specialty" lamps such as the ones for appliance usage. You can expect the same for CFL type lamps soon.

I think CFLs have disappeared, perhaps just because LEDs are better.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

6 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

I think CFLs have disappeared, perhaps just because LEDs are better.

Also CFLs had that HAZMAT requirement that if you broke one, you had to evacuate the area and call in a HAZMAT team. I think others ignored it too, if they even bothered to read the fine print.

[Eyesa Horg]

That was my snide comment when CFLs were forced on us, "Wait til they realize there's mercury in them"

[Cypress Sun]

1 hour ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Also CFLs had that HAZMAT requirement that if you broke one, you had to evacuate the area and call in a HAZMAT team. I think others ignored it too, if they even bothered to read the fine print.

 

Any and all fluorescent lamps "require" special clean up and disposal, not just the CFL types. IMO, fluorescent lamp maintenance, care and disposal has always been a PITA. I changed all of the fluorescent lamps in my house (kitchen, both baths, garage) to 120 volt LED 4' tubes years ago. I went with 4,000K in color rendition because the 2,700K lamps didn't produce enough brightness for my gals liking.

 

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Note for the folks that want to change over from fluorescent tube type lighting to LED. There are (in reality) two options for change out.

 

One is to use 120/277 (dual voltage) LED lamps. This requires re-wiring of the existing fluorescent fixture by disconnecting the existing ballast and changing the wiring to the lampholders (called tombstones) to 120 volt by putting the "hot" wire at one end and the neutral at the other. This can be done with the existing wiring within the fixture by almost anyone with mechanical ability and knowledge.

 

The other is to use LED replacement tubes that utilize the existing fluorescent ballast. This is basically a one for one swap out. The drawback to this kind of LED lamp is that it only reduces power usage very slightly and still relies on the old ballast to operate. When the ballast goes bad, and it will, it will need replacement for the LED lamp to work.

[El Chapo]

On 11/8/2024 at 4:47 PM, watab kid said:

ya , its time for the government to get their nose out of commercial business , we have allowed them too much already - they are supposed to serve us not dictate how we live -- that is communism 

 

While you seem very confused about what communism is (communism is a type of anarchy, the final stage of Marxism which has never existed and I would argue is impossible), I don't disagree with what you really seem to be saying, which is that the government really has no business being involved in any of this.  But we are decades down this path at this point, first with the government subsidizing CFLs (which are full of mercury and terrible for the environment), and now with a virtual ban on the Edison light bulb.  There's no way that horse is going to be shoved back into the barn, so for better or worse, LED technology is here to stay.

Edited November 10 by El Chapo

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

When searching for bulbs, standard base, medium base, and E26 are the same thing in US and Canada.

[watab kid]

18 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Actually Obama started the death roll on the incandescent lamp. Trump stopped the roll until he left office. Biden started it back up and as of last August, they are now "banned" with the exception of some "specialty" lamps such as the ones for appliance usage. You can expect the same for CFL type lamps soon.

i rest my case - too much government interference in business - time to get them out of it 

[watab kid]

6 hours ago, El Chapo said:

 

While you seem very confused about what communism is (communism is a type of anarchy, the final stage of Marxism which has never existed and I would argue is impossible), I don't disagree with what you really seem to be saying, which is that the government really has no business being involved in any of this.  But we are decades down this path at this point, first with the government subsidizing CFLs (which are full of mercury and terrible for the environment), and now with a virtual ban on the Edison light bulb.  There's no way that horse is going to be shoved back into the barn, so for better or worse, LED technology is here to stay.

im going to agree with you on that horse and the barn , im OK with LEDs and a lot of other things that have been subsidized [the product - not the subsidy] but like the buggy whip i think the market should drive its acceptance and industry should do the development with no government involvement ,