can motion sickness affect you when you are lying down

[Alpo]

I'm watching Emergency. There's a car wreck up in the mountains, three teenage victims. And they get them all out of the car and they put them in them basket stretchers, and they load them on a Huey to fly to Rampart General hospital.

 

And I just had the thought that if any of those three kids were susceptible to air thickness they were not only lying on their backs but they couldn't move. They were tied down. If they started puking they were going to drown.

 

And this caused the wonder - would it affect you if you were lying down?

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

I am sure the EMTs watch for the vomit reflex.

[Alpo]

The two EMTs did not go on the bird with them. A couple of firemen did go, but both of the EMTs stayed behind at the site. The dark-haired guy had lost a walkie-talkie, so he went back down to the wrecked car to see if he could find it, and about the time he found it he got bit by a rattlesnake. The other guy and two more firemen went down the road they had bulldozed down to the wreck, got him up on the dozer, and the dozer driver and all four of the firemen headed back up the hill. Then they broke for a commercial and I turned the show off.

 

But whether they were watching them or not did not answer my question.

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

Yes. I've been on ocean fishing trips where those susceptible to sea-sickness got no respite at all from lying down.

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

17 minutes ago, Alpo said:

The dark-haired guy had lost a walkie-talkie, so he went back down to the wrecked car to see if he could find it, and about the time he found it he got bit by a rattlesnake.

His character’s name was John Gage. I remember that episode. Gave me nightmares. 

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

As a kid I suffered horrible motion sickness. Lying down made it a lot worse. Sitting up and looking out the window is best for me. 

[Alpo]

2 hours ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said:

His character’s name was John Gage. I remember that episode. Gave me nightmares. 

Yes, I remembered his name was John, but I could not remember the other guy's name. All I could remember was Ponch, and that was CHiPs not Emergency.

 

 

Aaaaand I just remembered, his name was Roy. I think.

Edited May 30 by Alpo

[Tall Tale Todd]

Absolutely

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

Not exactly the same thing as motion sickness, but I recall a few instances of mornings following Kappa Phi Delta parties when I experienced notable cases of "bedspins."  While lying down.  Seemed to help a mite to remain prone but plant one foot on the floor.  

 

Now, I do recall an ocean fishing trip with a gang from work.  About a dozen or so of us had chartered the boat... of the bunch, I was the only one who did not hug the rail.  Two or three went below and hit the bunks, and became the sickest of all.  I will confess to starting out with a bit of a hangover, and fortified myself with a thermos of hot coffee "sweetened" with a goodly dose of Jack Daniels.  

 

Charlie is on the right track - I used to do a fair amount of sailing, and learned early on that if someone starts to feel queasy, instruct 'em to watch the horizon.  If that doesn't stop it, have 'em take the wheel or tiller.  Always worked for us.  

[Dr. Zook]

5 hours ago, Alpo said:

I'm watching Emergency. There's a car wreck up in the mountains, three teenage victims. And they get them all out of the car and they put them in them basket stretchers, and they load them on a Huey to fly to Rampart General hospital.

 

And I just had the thought that if any of those three kids were susceptible to air thickness they were not only lying on their backs but they couldn't move. They were tied down. If they started puking they were going to drown.

 

And this caused the wonder - would it affect you if you were lying down?

 

Here ya go Alpo,  

 

That is Fire Bird doing a long line rescue w/ stokes basket....

 

In regard to your first question - if they were properly secured in the Stokes basket and no need for Cervical spinal immobilization - you could literally turn the basket on its side and let the pt vomit.  If the pt needed spinal immobilization, provided it was done properly/safely/securely - we have often had to turn a pt onto their side to let them vomit and keep the airway clear. Suction units work great on fluids and small particles but not so good with the bigger chunks.

 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 5/30/2024 at 12:52 PM, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said:

Yes. I've been on ocean fishing trips where those susceptible to sea-sickness got no respite at all from lying down.

It doesn't matter what position you're in, you're still gonna be sick.  

 

Gladly I don't suffer from that problem.  Closest I ever came was on military flight back in 1964 in a old Convair prop plane (Model 740?) over Nebraska.  There was storm below us and the plane was all over the sky.

 

I was doing fine until a Colonel in the front seat lit up a cigar.  The guy next to him puked, and in seconds almost everyone on that old airplane was barfing his guts out.  About three of us didn't, but it was mighty close.

 

We set down at Offitt AFB and got off........just in the nick of time.

Edited June 4 by Forty Rod SASS 3935

[Dr. Zook]

10 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

It doesn't matter what position you're in you're still gonna be sick.  

 

Gladly I don't suffer from them problem.  Closest I ever came was on military flight back in 1964 in a old Convair prop plane over Nebraska.  There was storm below us and the plane was all over the sky.

 

I was doing fine until a Colonel in the front seat lit up a cigar.  The guy next to him puked, and in seconds almost everyone on that old airplane was barfing his guts out.  About three of us didn't, but it was mighty close.

 

We set down at Offitt AFB and got off........just in the nick of time.

Who got stuck with the "honey" bucket?

[John Kloehr]

If the ears do not agree with the eyes, vertigo can be the result. So going down into the cabin of a boat will cause a disagreement (ears detect motion, eyes see cabin walls not moving).

 

Up on deck, the motion felt in the ears matches the ship movement as to the horizon, less "motion sickness."

 

Dramamine can help as it shuts down motion detection in the ears.

 

I still remember one day after sailing and getting some food at a local store/deli. The clerk rang up the total, the cash register door popped open and rocked back and forth perfectly balanced; I nearly fell over compensating for the motion.

 

And an EMT would be on the chopper today, probably even back then. Television series allowance plus likely using the same choppers used for M*A*S*H to show troops brought in for treatment. 

[Warden Callaway]

The only time I can remember the room moving was when I was out with a party on Bourbon Street.  I had a Hurricane and later a rum and coke. I drink very little and I'm a cheap drunk. Anyway,  got back to room and laid down. Ohooo! The ceiling was going round and round. 

[Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L]

Roy DeSoto

Johnny Gage

I was in love with Dixie McCall (Julie London)

 

one of the reasons I joined our local FD and became an EMT-SS when I got back from RVN

 

all firefighters are trained in basic first aid and usually a bit more.  They would be monitoring the victims

 

[Alpo]

50 minutes ago, Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L said:

I was in love with Dixie McCall (Julie London

I found it interesting the Dixie seem to have a little thing going with Dr Brackett, while Dr Early was her real life husband.

 

Get your kicks on Route 66.

[Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103]

My father chartered a Lake Erie fishing trip.

I was designated medic.

My brother and his sons had never been out on Lake Erie before and there was some shared concern about seasickness.

I frowned studiously as I studied the instructions on the Dramamine, then confidently handed out pills, one to a customer, and confidently told each one the same outright lie.

"These are good for all day. New formulation. Guaranteed no seasickness."

Whether because of the psychosomatic effect or in spite of it, whether because they were busy catching fish (mostly sheepshead which got thrown back) and in the open air, nobody got the least little bit uneasy.

[Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L]

11 hours ago, Alpo said:

I found it interesting the Dixie seem to have a little thing going with Dr Brackett, while Dr Early was her real life husband.

 

Get your kicks on Route 66.

 

she was also married previously to Jack Webb ("Just the facts, Ma'am" of Dragnet) who was one of the producers

[PowderRiverCowboy]

Dont even have to be moving,  We had a couple convoy combat simulators that the Gunners would be sick after a session

 

https://www.dvidshub.net/video/721877/b-roll-marines-take-combat-convoy-simulator

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

18 hours ago, Dr. Zook said:

 

Here ya go Alpo,  

 

That is Fire Bird doing a long line rescue w/ stokes basket....

 

In regard to your first question - if they were properly secured in the Stokes basket and no need for Cervical spinal immobilization - you could literally turn the basket on its side and let the pt vomit.  If the pt needed spinal immobilization, provided it was done properly/safely/securely - we have often had to turn a pt onto their side to let them vomit and keep the airway clear. Suction units work great on fluids and small particles but not so good with the bigger chunks.

 

Talk about an E Ticket ride.  Glad she's okay.

[J.D. Daily]

The TV program Emergency is why my 50+ year old son wanted to be a fireman paramedic.  To my best recollection he was 3-4 years old at the time.  Right after HS he enrolled in vocational school to get his EMT certificate.  Once he had the minimum required experience he enrolled in paramedic program at a vocational school and then performed the required OJT to get his certificate.  Concurrently he applied to several fire departments.  Eventually he was hired by a department that was a 90 minute drive.  He kept applying to a local FD & eventually was hired as a firemen paramedic.  He advanced to captain & no longer is a paramedic.