Old Irish Shooter Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Would my Bisley New Models be ok for frontier cartridge or should I stick with cap and ball revolver using a conversion cylinder. Want to switch to frontier cartridge but of course if I can save money by using my Ruger Bisley New Models I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still hand Bill Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Rugers should work ok. Imho I use open tops for FC as they were designed for black powder and it’s a lot easier to clean the barrels on them than a top strap revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 If your Bisleys have reduced power springs they would be preferred. However, make sure the gap between the cylinder and the barrel is large enough to accommodate black powder fouling. Cleaning black powder fouling is easy even with a top strap. I'd give APP a try for the first batch of ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Bradford Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I use stainless Ruger New Vaqueros for FC, they will run a 6 stage match with just an occasional wipe down of the cylinder face using APP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I’ve been running black powder in a pair of Ruger Bisleys at every annual I’ve shot in the last 10+ years and they’ve been flawless. Whichever way you go, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I have been using a pair of blued old model Vaquero's in 357...using 38 cases...and haven't had any trouble yet for six stages using APP and 125grain bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Yup, them Bisleys will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 They'll work just fine with APP or Real BP. Just be sure to use a BP compatible grease on the cylinder pin. I use Mobil 1 Red Synthetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Yes they will work fine agree with the Mobile 1 Grease. I shoot Open Tops and C&B in Frontier Cartridge with no problems, never shot APP just real black so not sure how APP works but should be fine as well. All revolvers clean up well for me so not an issue with top straps or open tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I decided to revert back to the original cowboy rifle/revolver cartridge, 44-40. I shoot only real black out of Stainless Old Model Ruger Vaqueros and have no issues, that is once I reamed their cylinder throats. Of course, Ruger no longer manufactures these, but they work extremely well for black powder. I have shot two whole matches without even swabbing or cleaning the revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Yes!! It’s the MOST FUN YOU CAN HAVE SHOOTING!! The smoke will put a big fat SMILE on your face!! The Dark Side is calling!! Hugs!! Scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Yes they will work just fine. Make sure you run APP power , it's self lubricating and can be used with the same bullets you already run in your smokeless cartridges. Welcome to the dark side . Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Montana Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I use APP 3F and Hi-Tek coated bullets, both from Scarlett Darlin with Ruger SS NMV which other than springs are stock, the stock cylinder to barrel gap on those pistols is sufficiently wide enough to not be a problem. The combination is reliable through 6 stages with no maintenance between stages. I do wipe down the front sights with a damp rag after each stages as I shoot FCG and the sights tend to get covered in a bit of soot. Clean-up is easy with 90/10 mix of water/Ballistol. Give it a try with the revolvers you have, I think you will have a lot of fun. You can check them out in action here: https://www.youtube.com/@bingomontana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I've shot 6 stages with my 45 Vaqueros with 2F real BP and zero issues. It also cleans that miserable carbon from my usual smokeless on the back strap for me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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