Pat Riot Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) I was looking forward to a new cool revolver. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-for-2024-smith-wesson-model-1854-lever-action/ Edited January 23 by Pat Riot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 And then we have the Bond Arms lever gun. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-guns-gear-for-2024/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Ruger LC Carbine in .45 ACP. This oughta make some folks happy. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-for-2024-ruger-lc-carbine-in-45-acp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: I was looking forward to a new cool revolver. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-for-2024-smith-wesson-model-1854-lever-action/ Ummmm….no. Looks like a Henry action and ugly too. There’s this thread over on the Wire: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Thanks. I am not interested in the S&W 1854. One thing I am curious about. Why does every new lever gun that comes out in a pistol cartridge caliber it’s always .44 magnum. Why not .45 Colt or .357 Magnum? It’s a selfish thing I guess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Henry has a new Lever Gun. The “Supreme”. I like it, except it’s not in a cartridge I like. It’s coming out in .223 and .300 Blackout. https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2024/01/22/shot-show-2024-henrys-new-lever-action-supreme-rifle/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Henry has a new Lever Gun. The “Supreme”. I like it, except it’s not in a cartridge I like. It’s coming out in .223 and .300 Blackout. https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2024/01/22/shot-show-2024-henrys-new-lever-action-supreme-rifle/ I like that, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 15 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Thanks. I am not interested in the S&W 1854. One thing I am curious about. Why does every new lever gun that comes out in a pistol cartridge caliber it’s always .44 magnum. Why not .45 Colt or .357 Magnum? It’s a selfish thing I guess. I’m guessing .44 mag has more marketing appeal, perhaps a holdover from Dirty Harry movies. .45 Colt just sounds old and .44 Mag must be better than .357 mag, because bigger is always better, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 A new gun in .30 Super Carry https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/new-from-avidity-arms-pd10-12-chambered-in-30-super-carry/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 The .44 Mag is a popular option for those hunting Jan/Feb season with straight-wall cartridges. My question is why 9+1 when 95+% of CAS stages require ten shots? Very poor market research if you ask me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Aha! A new revolver! Wasn’t aware of this company making handguns. SDR REVOLVER: DIAMONDBACK INTROS NEW SNUB-NOSE .357 MAGNUM https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/17/sdr-revolver-diamondback-intros-new-snub-nose-357-magnum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, Tom Bullweed said: The .44 Mag is a popular option for those hunting Jan/Feb season with straight-wall cartridges. My question is why 9+1 when 95+% of CAS stages require ten shots? Very poor market research if you ask me... I really don’t think SASS is in the minds of gun manufacturers like it was years ago. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 hours ago, Pat Riot said: I really don’t think SASS is in the minds of gun manufacturers like it was years ago. Agreed, but on the other hand adding just enough barrel and magazine tube length to get 10 rounds in the tube is a minor cost and potentially opens up another market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 36 minutes ago, Chantry said: Agreed, but on the other hand adding just enough barrel and magazine tube length to get 10 rounds in the tube is a minor cost and potentially opens up another market. I wonder if it will cycle .44 Special and if so perhaps 10 of those would fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 50 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: I wonder if it will cycle .44 Special and if so perhaps 10 of those would fit. Answering my own question here. I found the 1854 manual online. On page 12 it says the new rifle will handle “most .44 Special ammunition “. https://assets.contentstack.io/v3/assets/bltb61dcb3c40854cd9/blt8ca1e904363f72c9/65aabee61e1aedb452fd4ddd/S&W_LAR_Manual_120523_3015918.pdf Also, it’s obvious to me that S&W copied the Marlin 336 and or the Henry Big Boy. Look at the unloading and takedown procedures in the above linked manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I'm old school. I like pretty wood and polished blue in my lever guns..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Hashknife Cowboy said: I'm old school. I like pretty wood and polished blue in my lever guns..... This is about New Stuff, not really cool vintage stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 (edited) The All New Winchester Ranger .22! Now this might be worth a look. SCROLL https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/new-rifles-of-shot-show-2024/ Actually, there are several neat new rifles in that link. Edited January 23 by Pat Riot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 New handguns at SHOT Show ‘24. Only one revolver in this list. A new Ruger Redhawk in .22 Hornet https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/new-handguns-of-shot-show-2024/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 (edited) posted info on this above, but I have to admit, this is a sharp looking revolver. Diamondback had its new .357 SDR revolver on the shooting line. Coined the Self-Defense Revolver for its size and power, this small hand cannon is one of the lightest single-action/double-action six-shot .357 magnums on the market at just 1.3 pounds. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com) Some good info on that revolver here. I do believe I want one. https://diamondbackfirearms.com/sdr/ There are some other nice ones in this link, including the Winchester Ranger .22 mentioned above. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/23/shot-show-2024-range-day-new-guns Edited January 23 by Pat Riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I pulled most all these links. Went to YouTube and searched. Looked like a freak show. Nothing for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Pat Riot said: posted info on this above, but I have to admit, this is a sharp looking revolver. Diamondback had its new .357 SDR revolver on the shooting line. Coined the Self-Defense Revolver for its size and power, this small hand cannon is one of the lightest single-action/double-action six-shot .357 magnums on the market at just 1.3 pounds. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com) Some good info on that revolver here. I do believe I want one. https://diamondbackfirearms.com/sdr/ There are some other nice ones in this link, including the Winchester Ranger .22 mentioned above. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/23/shot-show-2024-range-day-new-guns i like the look of that , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, watab kid said: i like the look of that , I do too. I haven’t found any shooting reviews of it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 20 hours ago, Pat Riot said: Wasn’t aware of this company making handguns Remember the high standard double nine? Double action 22 revolver that looked like a single action? Diamondback has been making that thing for a couple years now. What's old is New again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/22/2024 at 10:14 PM, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: I’m guessing .44 mag has more marketing appeal, perhaps a holdover from Dirty Harry movies. .45 Colt just sounds old and .44 Mag must be better than .357 mag, because bigger is always better, right? Hunting boar, deer, etc usually is more successful with .44mag, but I have a friend who loves .45 Colt and continues to bombard me with articles about .45 Colt abilities. Perhaps the other reason is the “tactical” rifle perspective, and most view .44 mag as tactical round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 hours ago, Pat Riot said: posted info on this above, but I have to admit, this is a sharp looking revolver. Diamondback had its new .357 SDR revolver on the shooting line. Coined the Self-Defense Revolver for its size and power, this small hand cannon is one of the lightest single-action/double-action six-shot .357 magnums on the market at just 1.3 pounds. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com) Some good info on that revolver here. I do believe I want one. https://diamondbackfirearms.com/sdr/ I have handled and shot their semi auto pistols. Aint a chance that I would want their revolver offerings. Diamondback will make you look at Kel Tec with a positive opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Alpo said: Remember the high standard double nine? Double action 22 revolver that looked like a single action? Diamondback has been making that thing for a couple years now. What's old is New again. yes , i was aware of that - dont have one of theirs i have the original histandard tho , avtually know someone that worked for diamondback back before they were sold , this is one of their offerings i would actually like to try and maybe buy , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 20 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: I have handled and shot their semi auto pistols. Aint a chance that I would want their revolver offerings. Diamondback will make you look at Kel Tec with a positive opinion. You’ve shot their revolvers? I look at any newer company like this. Ruger started off with a .22 semiauto. Look where they are now. Davis Defense started off making AR butt stock tube collars with sling loops. Glock started off making knives and other things out of polymer for the Austrian army. I think I will wait and see how reviews go on it before tossing the idea in the trash. And KelTec makes some decent guns as far as I can tell. I have owned a couple that have been wonderfully reliable b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 hours ago, Pat Riot said: You’ve shot their revolvers? I look at any newer company like this. Ruger started off with a .22 semiauto. Look where they are now. Davis Defense started off making AR butt stock tube collars with sling loops. Glock started off making knives and other things out of polymer for the Austrian army. I think I will wait and see how reviews go on it before tossing the idea in the trash. And KelTec makes some decent guns as far as I can tell. I have owned a couple that have been wonderfully reliable b All of the companies you list started out making a quality product and transferred that quality mindset forward as they expanded. Obviously, I've not shot their revolvers yet. But I have handled, sold and fired examples of their gun making. Based on those experiences - I can make some reasonable assumptions. I may have to eat crow when the Diamondback turns out to be built like a Ruger, perform like a Smith and be as collectible as a Colt. But I wont be surprised when I'm right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: But I wont be surprised when I'm right. I guess we’ll see. I don’t think I have actually seen any of the guns they sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/22/2024 at 5:48 PM, Pat Riot said: I was looking forward to a new cool revolver. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-for-2024-smith-wesson-model-1854-lever-action/ Well, there's the new Taurus Deputy.... Not a bad looking revolver ~ MSRP $606.98. I hope it does better than their Gaucho, produced from '05 to '07. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky R. K. Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2024 at 3:16 PM, Warden Callaway said: I pulled most all these links. Went to YouTube and searched. Looked like a freak show. Nothing for me. I'm with you. As far as I am concerned all that modern stuff shown above is CRAP. Give me a '60, '66, or '73 in 44-40 shooting black powder. Just my opinion. Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilli GaHoot Galoot Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 25 minutes ago, Lucky R. K. said: I'm with you. As far as I am concerned all that modern stuff shown above is CRAP. Give me a '60, '66, or '73 in 44-40 shooting black powder. Just my opinion. Lucky I'm still waiting on my 6" Ruger Security Six in 41 spl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) Back to diamondback. Did you see their new " 21ST CENTURY TOMMY GUN"? They took an AR. They replaced the plastic AR pistol grip with a wood pistol grip with the same shape from a Thompson submachine gun. They attached a vertical forearm on the barrel shroud, also wouldWOOD, also shaped like from a Thompson submachine gun. And they put a drum in the magazine well of the AR. IT'S THE NEW TOMMY GUN OF THE 21ST CENTURY!!!!! No, it's an AR with wood stocks, in 9 mm. Edited January 25 by Alpo otto needs to learn about homophones 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 New bolt action rifles from SHOT Show. https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/new-rifles-shotshow2024/489752 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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