Go West Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I found a load of 3.9 gr. of Blue Dot for .32 mag. with a 100 gr. bullet. I'm wondering if the load is too hot because the ejector rod will bind after a stage. I'm thinking the gun gets hot and binds the rod. What do you think? When the guns were clean and cold this wasn't an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Where is that load on the load scale? What do you mean it binds? Won't push the case out or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 The rod won't budge. The cylinders have to be pulled to drop the empties. The Lyman Cast manual says 3.9 gr. for 773 fps with a 100 gr. bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Is the channel carrying the ejector rod clean? Sometimes they build up plastic like deposits that inhibit rod movement. Cleaning them is pretty easy -- just remove one screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 My guess....... the little hole in the frame is too tight and now allowing the ejector rod to smoothly push thru. Open it up just a few .000 and polish AND.... slightly bevel the front edge. TEST: remove the cylinder and push your ejector rod back and forth a few times to see it there might be slight dragging during the process. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Clean it really good and lubricate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Does the cyl index correctly to allow the rod to remove the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I have had to drill out numerous Single Six ejector rod holes. It does not have to be a precision fit. Take off the ejector rod housing and then drill the hole out a few thousands. Also, Blue Dot is not a good powder for light SASS loads. It is for heavy shotgun loads or heavy handgun loads. Used for light SASS loads it is dirty and exacerbates the tight fitting ejector rod hole problem. Look for powders like Bullseye, Clays, Red Dot, HP38/231. I.e., faster powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 You're probably right, Larsen. I ran out of Bullseye and thought since the published load didn't seem too fast, I'd try it. I bought a long drill bit to see about opening the hole. I'll look to see what other powders I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Go West said: You're probably right, Larsen. I ran out of Bullseye and thought since the published load didn't seem too fast, I'd try it. I bought a long drill bit to see about opening the hole. I'll look to see what other powders I have. And it don't hurt to give the front of that hole a slight bevel also. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Single Six revolvers are typically pretty close fitting, both at the loading gate and at the ejector rod. It isn't unusual to have to wiggle the cylinder a bit to get to alignment. Modifying per the above advise can ease the fit, if you don't mind making gun modifications. Keeping them clean and lubed helps a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Bob Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Hey Go West - it wouldn’t do that if you stopped pounding on the unloading table with it because you missed one target! TTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 I had one that would bind if the ejector rod housing screw was loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Roper Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Following this. We have 3 sets. His set (Bisleys) don't have any issues with the ejector rod sticking. Mine are both small plow frames and I have one set that one occasionally when ejecting will get a little sticky. My other set both of them get so sticky that I literally have to place the ejector rod nub against the edge of the table and shove it. The rod is slightly sticky even after cleaning the guns (which includes taking a qtip with hoppes and inserting it into the housing with the spring compressed). These guns get much worse as I shoot them. We have tried Rem oil, Mobil oil, Ballistol, etc and they still do it. We use 32 longs with 3.4 grns of HP38/Win 231 with either a 78 or 100 grn bullet. The set that sticks all of the time gets used less than the set that only has one gun that sticks occasionally because the sticky set only gets used for major matches. Not sure if any of this info is related to the problem but I would be very interested in a solution. Thanks. Roper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Renegade Roper said: Not sure if any of this info is related to the problem but I would be very interested in a solution. You have the answer if you have read the thread. Enlarge the ejector rod hole in the frame. Common problem, easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Through Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I have a set that was binding and got them used and there was a burr at top of ejector rod housing that had to be filed down looked like someone had been letting go of ejector and letting it slam down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Through Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 well shoot mine was not single six......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 One of my two Ruger .32 birdheads had an ejector rod that would occasionally bind. It was the stainless one of my mixed pair; the blued gun never bound up. I chose to knock off about .005" on the ejector rod rather than mess with a hole on the frame since the could always be replaced if I blundered. The issue seems to be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Roper Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Tom Bullweed said: One of my two Ruger .32 birdheads had an ejector rod that would occasionally bind. It was the stainless one of my mixed pair; the blued gun never bound up. I chose to knock off about .005" on the ejector rod rather than mess with a hole on the frame since the could always be replaced if I blundered. The issue seems to be solved. That's what I was wondering after reading about filing the hole, if it would be easier to sand the rod itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Rather than sanding something that may not need it try cleaning the rod and then coating it with black magic marker. Put it together and run it a few times to see where it is binding. You will know where the problem is. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 All four of my .32 Single Sixes did that. The fit is just too "precision". Ream the hole or sand the rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 I drilled the holes out, they were just too tight. It was weird that they didn't do this with Bullseye, but did with Blue Dot. I was thinking heat, but maybe it was due to dirty loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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