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Looks like Massie’s an ass. 

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That's money that our kids and grand kids....and maybe their grandkids.... will have to pay off.

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7 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

That's money that our kids and grand kids....and maybe their grandkids.... will have to pay off.

It will never be paid off.

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Our left wing minority ruling party tried to sneak in a clause that would have given them cart blanche tax  and spending authority until the end of 2021, but got caught by MP's that actually read the bill.

Why is it that left leaning parties seem to favour sneaky tactics as opposed to dealing with matters straight up and in the open? 

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$11 BILLION in pork, just to Africa.

The gov't will print even more money, and pay off the big debt of Yesterday with the cheap dollars of Tomorrow.

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It ain’t perfect for sure. But ........

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As I understand it, it will be based upon the 2018 (year) tax return. If one didn't file a tax return for that year, will they still receive a "check"? I don't think any of the questions like this have been answered.

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Anyone have a better solution??

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3 hours ago, bgavin said:

$11 BILLION in pork, just to Africa.

The gov't will print even more money, and pay off the big debt of Yesterday with the cheap dollars of Tomorrow.

Can you say "inflation"?  I knew you could.

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17 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Anyone have a better solution??

Several, but our "leaders" don't have the guts to follow them.

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1 minute ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Several, but our "leaders" don't have the guts to follow them.

Okay I’ll bite. What?!

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5 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

Our left wing minority ruling party tried to sneak in a clause that would have given them cart blanche tax  and spending authority until the end of 2021, but got caught by MP's that actually read the bill.

Why is it that left leaning parties seem to favour sneaky tactics as opposed to dealing with matters straight up and in the open? 

As opposed to the first senate version that the republicans tried to sneak in a slush fund? Neither party is any less guilty of those tactics. They are both beholden to the same masters. 

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I downloaded the PDF of the signed bill.
It is 880 pages in PDF form.

I'm running a spread sheet on all the expenditures.
So far... just under $1 TRILLION dollars in pork and christmas tree ornaments that have NOTHING to do with C19 relief.

The pork is nothing short of monstrous.
I will post a summary when I get through it all.

I have lost all faith in our government to be responsible.
I fault the GOP and the President for signing this piece of manure.
I understand his feet are held to the fire with political blackmail, but this $2 TRILLION frivolous debt is obscene.
At least 50% of it is entirely pork and fluff.

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Nancy got her ass handed to her on social media and the Democrats blanched and fled as fast as they could away from her 1,200 page bill she showed up back in town with that had nationwide ballot harvesting, parts of the green new deal, and government oversight of any corporations accepting funds and control of appointments to their boards of directors. 

 

She and other democrats had been writing their House bill for some time and their plan was for her to come back to town and torpedo the senate bill via the senate democrats and then when that bill was sunk, quickly pass their House bill and then say the senate must pass it ASAP due to the crisis. What she didn't count on was the vicious backlash on social media to her torpedoing the senate bill that made her allies in the house and senate and even parts of the media run for cover. 

 

The senate democrats then came to heel and worked with some minor negotiations to finish and vote through the initial bill leaving her with no play except to pass the bill in the House or look even worse though I don't think she even had enough support at that point to block it. 

 

The bill as passed still has major issues and adds too much debt, the only hope is that it can prevent a sustained and deeper recession. Way too much pork still too, but nothing passes the house or senate without tons and tons of pork. Maybe this time working people and truly small business with get at least a pitance of the spending which normally they don't get even that. 

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12 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

As I understand it, it will be based upon the 2018 (year) tax return. If one didn't file a tax return for that year, will they still receive a "check"? I don't think any of the questions like this have been answered.

 

I guess we’ll have to wait and see....  but my understanding is all adults.  I didn’t see anything about a tax return. I thought it was a flat $1000 no matter what.  If it went by tax returns then what about retirees? 

I don’t know.....  there’s so much stuff floating around it’s hard to keep up.  

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8 hours ago, bgavin said:

I have lost all faith in our government to be responsible.

That pretty much sums it up..

And it’s a shame. I know many good, responsible, honorable people who work in the government.

Unfortunately, they are not power brokers and in the positions to change the course of things. :(

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Digging through the 880 pages of this bill... I find at least 50% of the bill is pure pork.
Gov't give away manure and Democrat christmas tree ornaments.


In a single word, this bill is "obscene".


Admin. for Children and Families.Low Income Home Energy
Admin. for Children and Families.Payments for Child Care
Admin. for Children and Families.Services Programs
Admin. For Community Living and Aging Services
African Development Fund Replenish
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Air Carrier Worker Support
Air Force.Operations and Maintenance
Army National Guard.Operations and Maintenance
Army Reserve.Operations and Maintenance
Army.Corps of Engineers.Expenses
Army.Corps of Engineers.Operations and Maintenance
Army.Operations and Maintenance
Bureau of Reclamation.Administration
Bureau of Reclamation.Water Resources
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services
Coast Guard.Operations and Support
Cyber Security and Infrastructure Security.Operations and Support
Defense-Wide.Operations and Maintenance
Defense.Health Program
Defense.Inspector General
Defense.Production Act
Defense.Working Capital Fund
Dept. of Agriculture.Forest Service.Capital Improvement
Dept. of Agriculture.Forest Service.National Forest System
Dept. of Agriculture.Forest Service.Research
Dept. of Agriculture.Forest Service.Wildland Fire Management
Dept. of Commerce.Emergency EIDL Grants
Dept. of Commerce.Minority Business Development Agency
Dept. of Education..Administration
Dept. of Education..Science
Dept. of Education.Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Dept. of Education.D.C.Gallaudet University
Dept. of Education.D.C.Howard University
Dept. of Education.Departmental Management
Dept. of Education.Education Stabilization Fund
Dept. of Education.Inspector General
Dept. of Education.Institute of Museum and Library Services
Dept. of Education.Safe Schools and Citizenship
Dept. of Education.Student Aid Administration
Dept. of Health Human Services.CDC.Program Support
Dept. of Health Human Services.Indian Health Service
Dept. of Health Human Services.Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
Dept. of Health Human Services.Low Income Home Energy Assistance
Dept. of Health Human Services.National Center for Translational Sciences
Dept. of Health Human Services.National Library of Medicine
Dept. of Health Human Services.Office of the Director
Dept. of Health Human Services.Payments to States for Child Care
Dept. of Health.National Insitute of Biomedical Imaging
Dept. of Interior.Bureau of Indian Affairs.Education
Dept. of Interior.Bureau of Indian Affairs.Programs
Dept. of Justice.US Attorneys.Salaries
Dept. of Justice.US Marshalls.Salaries
Dept. of Labor.Department Management Salaries and Expenses
Dept. of Labor.Inspector General
Dept. of Labor.Training and Employment
Dept. of State.Emergencies in Diplomatic Service
Dept. of State.Foreign Affairs Diplomatic Programs
Dept. of State.Foreign Operations
Dept. of State.International Development Agency
Dept. of State.International Development Organization Replenish
Dept. of State.International Disaster Assistance
Dept. of State.Migration and Refugee Assistance
Dept. of State.Millenium Challenge Corporation
Dept. of State.Peace Corps
Dept. of Transportation.Essential Air Service
Dept. of Transportation.Secretary Salaries
Dept. of Treasury.Coronoavirus Economic Stabilization Act
Dept. of Treasury.Fiscal Service.Salaries
Dept. of Treasury.IRS.Administration
Dept. of Treasury.IRS.Enforcement
Dept. of Treasury.IRS.Operations
Dept. of Treasury.IRS.Taxpayer Services
Dept. of Treasury.Salaries
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.Armed Forces Retirement Home Trust Fund
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Administration
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Construction Grants for Extended Care Facilities
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.General Administration
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Inspector General
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.IT Systems
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Medical Community Care
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Medical Facilities
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Medical Services
Dept. of Veterans Affairs.VA.Medical Support Compliance
Dept. Veterans Affairs.Administration
District of Columbia.Security
Drug Enforcement Admin.Salaries
Election Assistance Commission.Grants
EPA.Buildings
EPA.Environmental Programs and Management
EPA.Hazardous Substance Superfund
EPA.Science and Technology
FAA.Grants for Airports
FBI.Salaries
FCC.Salaries
Federal Assistance.Emergency Food and Shelter
Federal Assistance.Emergency Management  Grants
Federal Assistance.Firefighter Grants
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Admin.
Federal Prisons.Salaries
Federal Railroad Admin.Grants National Network
Federal Railroad Admin.Grants Northeast Corridor
Federal Railroad Admin.Safety and Operations
Federal Transit Admin.Infrastructure Grants
FEMA.Operations and Support
Governor of the Bank
GSA.Federal Citizen Services Fund
GSA.Real Properties and Buildings Fund
GSA.Working Capital Fund
Health Care Workforce
Health Workforce.Education and Training for Geriatrics
Homeland Security.Disaster Relief Fund
Homeland Security.Operations and Support
Homeland Security.TSA.Operations and Support
House of Representatives Salary Increase
HUD.Administrative Support
HUD.AIDS Housing Opportunity
HUD.Community Development Fund
HUD.Community Planning
HUD.Fair Housing Activities
HUD.Homeless Assistance Grants
HUD.Housing for Disabled People
HUD.Housing for Elderly
HUD.Indian Housing
HUD.Inspector General
HUD.Project Based Rental Assistance
HUD.Public Housing Fund
HUD.Public Housing Fund
HUD.Tenant Rental Assistance
Institute of American Indian and Alaska Native Culture and Arts
Insular Affairs
Judiciary.Courts.Salaries
Judiciary.Defender Services
Judiciary.Supreme Court.Salaries
Kennedy Center for Performing Arts.Operations and Maintenance
Legal Services Corporation
Legislative Branch.Architect of the Capitol.Capital Construction
Legislative Branch.Capitol Police.Salaries
Legislative Branch.GAO.Salaries
Legislative Branch.House of Representatives.Salaries
Legislative Branch.Library of Congress.Salaries
Legislative Branch.Misc Items
Legislative Branch.Miscellaneous Items
Legislative Branch.Office of the Attending Physician
Legislative Branch.Senate Employee Child Care
Legislative Branch.Sergeant at Arms
Little Scholars Child Development Center
Loan Payment Subsidy
Marines.Operations and Maintenance
Maritime Admin.Academy Operations
Maritime Admin.Operations
Medicaid.Money Follow the Person
NASA.Operations and Award Management
NASA.Research
NASA.Safety, Security, Mission
National Archives.Operating Expense
National Endowment For the Humanities.Grants
National Foundation on the Arts and Humanities
National Guard.Air Force
National Guard.Army
National Insitutes of Health
National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
Navy.Operations and Maintenance
Nuclear Regulatory Commission.Salaries
Nursing Home Development
Office of Personnel Management.Pandemic Response Committee
Office of Personnel Management.Salaries
Office of the Inspector General.Salaries
Office of the Secretary.Operations
Office of the Secretary.Public Health and Social Services
Office of the Secretary.Public Health Emergency Fund
Railroad Retirement Board.Benefits
Railroad Retirement Board.Limitation on Administration
Railroad Retirement Board.Unemployment
Services in Non-English Language
Small Business Admin. Loans CARES Act
Small Business Admin.Business Loans
Small Business Admin.Disaster Loans Account
Small Business Admin.Entepreneurial Development
Small Business Admin.Inspector General
Small Business Admin.Salaries
Smithsonian Institution.Salaries
Social Security Admin.Limitation on Administration
SSA.Administrative Expenses
State and Local Law Enforcement
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services.Health Surveillance
Tiny Findings Child Development Center
Unemployment Insurance

 


 

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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

As I understand it, it will be based upon the 2018 (year) tax return. If one didn't file a tax return for that year, will they still receive a "check"? I don't think any of the questions like this have been answered.

The morning tv broadcast said if you didn’t file 2018 taxes, hurry to file your 2019 and that will count.  

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