The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted April 30, 2018 Would this be SASS 'legal' on the Marlin 94's? http://www.rangerpointstore.com/marlin-flyweight-easy-loading-gate/?redirect_mongo_id=5ae6549d6c55aa0027ede052&utm_source=Springbot&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Loading Gates OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCandless 1,430 Posted April 30, 2018 Oooh, lots o' Marlin stuff! Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted April 30, 2018 Their M/94 extractor is well worth it! OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L 1,447 Posted May 1, 2018 going to drive over tomorrow and take a look at one hope PWB reports back before then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snakebite 1,056 Posted May 1, 2018 Other than being lighter in weight, what is the difference in this and an original? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LostVaquero 474 Posted May 1, 2018 Funny I was just looking at these. Not available yet for 1894s yet. As long as roughly the look was there I don't see a problem but yep best get a more expert opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stony Lane 32 Posted May 1, 2018 Do you have an idea when the one for 1894s will be out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 3,621 Posted May 1, 2018 7 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Would this be SASS 'legal' on the Marlin 94's? http://www.rangerpointstore.com/marlin-flyweight-easy-loading-gate/?redirect_mongo_id=5ae6549d6c55aa0027ede052&utm_source=Springbot&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Loading Gates OLG 3 hours ago, Snakebite said: Other than being lighter in weight, what is the difference in this and an original? The website lists the following as one of the features/benefits: "redesigned the loading gate to offer substantially more clearance for cartridges, further reducing load effort. This is a significant benefit when loading fat, straight wall ammo" If that is visible with the action closed, it is NOT on the list of allowed external modifications. I would suggest that, if the manufacturer is interested in marketing the part to SASS/CAS shooter, a "Firearms Modification Consideration" be submitted as required under the procedure cited in the SHB (p.32). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 2,938 Posted May 1, 2018 I'd have to see them side by side but it looks more like the "original" loading gate than the reintroduced model. I'd have to dig out an 1893 to compare the ones in the picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 1, 2018 11 hours ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: The website lists the following as one of the features/benefits: "redesigned the loading gate to offer substantially more clearance for cartridges, further reducing load effort. This is a significant benefit when loading fat, straight wall ammo" If that is visible with the action closed, it is NOT on the list of allowed external modifications. I would suggest that, if the manufacturer is interested in marketing the part to SASS/CAS shooter, a "Firearms Modification Consideration" be submitted as required under the procedure cited in the SHB (p.32). The clearance deal is internal. I am gonna ask them to post a picture of their l'gate, and an OEM Marlin gate. TNX, OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L 1,447 Posted May 1, 2018 dropped by today (6 miles from the house) and bought the next to last blue version of it (first run). waiting on more metal for next batch to be made when I got home sent them copies of this thread, SASS homepage, SASS contact page, copy of SHB with section about getting it approved included in body of letter. Hope they pursue this. now to install it and will report back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 3,621 Posted May 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: The clearance deal is internal. I am gonna ask them to post a picture of their l'gate, and an OEM Marlin gate. In that case, it would be LEGAL as an internal modification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 1, 2018 I'm ask'n them to post pictures on their site, of theirs and an OEM Marlin. DUM question-The color(gold or silver)makes no difference? Is that correct? TNX again, OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 3,621 Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I'm ask'n them to post pictures on their site, of theirs and an OEM Marlin. DUM question-The color(gold or silver)makes no difference? Is that correct? TNX again, OLG That is correct (same as for hammers, triggers, frames, etc.) : Quote COSMETIC EMBELLISHMENT ... - Metal surfaces may retain their natural color or be blued, browned, plated (such as nickel, gold, or silver), blacked, color case hardened, aged to a patina type finish, or jeweled. SHB p.36 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 1, 2018 Here are the pictures. OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 2,938 Posted May 1, 2018 Here is a loading gate for a Marlin 1893, the grandfather of the 336. Maybe have Ranger compare their product to the first original Marlin 1893, 1894, and 1895s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bullett Sass 19707 71 Posted May 2, 2018 If you install the black one, it wont change the look of the rifle at all. Bullett 19707 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramblin Gambler 878 Posted May 2, 2018 11 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Here are the pictures. OLG Am I the only one who can't see the pictures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Saywut 131 Posted May 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Ramblin Gambler said: Am I the only one who can't see the pictures? You’re not the only one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L 1,447 Posted May 2, 2018 I see dead people . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 2, 2018 Sorry about the 'no-see'. I'm to 'puter dum to know how to fix it. OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,669 Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I'm dum OLG I have nothing else to add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,154 Posted May 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: I have nothing else to add. What do ya want from a chubby 1-year old ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Yusta B. said: What do ya want from a chubby 1-year old ? Shows you how little you know-I'm 1 1/2 years old........ And for Shoot'n Bull..... OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,154 Posted May 2, 2018 Lumpy's pic of the loading gates: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 2, 2018 Somedangbody, please read the pictures to Shoot'n Bull........... OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L 1,447 Posted May 2, 2018 well, I went by RP and bought a gate, came home and tore my Marlin down to the loading gate and discovered they didn't match took it back along with the OEM and was told, "Oh, we haven't started making that part yet." talk about feeling dumb. I am at the top of the list for when they do make them, though. and the rifle is all ready to be cleaned now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 2,938 Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Yusta B. said: Lumpy's pic of the loading gates: I'm confused. It looks like they are showing the "back side" of the factory part and the "front side" of their new product. Or is it supposed to be factory on the left and RPP on the right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyesa Horg 1,172 Posted May 2, 2018 I believe it's factory on top & RPP on the bottom, looks like the thicker part for the screw threads is just on the opposite side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 5,930 Posted May 2, 2018 Top 2 are Marlin. Bottom is RRP. OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,154 Posted May 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: I believe it's factory on top & RPP on the bottom, looks like the thicker part for the screw threads is just on the opposite side. Possibly the "tang" on the gate is thicker on the RPP parts. Looks like it might be tapered. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ramblin Gambler 878 Posted May 3, 2018 Maybe when someone finally installs one we can get some side by side pictures. Looks like it'll be hard to tell the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
