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Missed a great deal! I will take it if the deal falls through Dewey! SCJ

I kinda think of it as The Day That Saved Japan. If it hadn't worked and the Allies had to carry out Operation Downfall, Japan would likely have had 3,000,000 to 5,000,000, some say up to 10,000,000) Japanese deaths from direct military a tion. Add in millions more from disease and starvation.

Good thing George Patten didn't find out about this. He'd have spilled the beans for sure.

Can't attest to the best! But I've had very good luck with N320, Clean Shot, and Red Dot in .45 Colt and Cowboy45Special. Red Dot has been my go-to, but it's gotten nearly impossible to find. Clean Shot feels almost identical to Red Dot in my opinion, though it does leave behind some small yellow flakes, kind of looks like grits. Recently, I’ve been using N320 by Vihtavuori and have really liked it. It seems to be a little cleaner than the others, but it’s still early, lol. I'm using a 160 grain bullet for both pistol and rifle. Please feel free to shoot me a message! I'd be happy to help in any way I can.

I have been using Perfect Pattern for a while in my shotshells, I haven't tried it in .38 since I still have a good supply of Clays. I found, as others have said, to get a good stack height I have to drop a bushing size (1 oz bushing for a 1 1/8 load, 7/8 oz bushing for a 1 oz load and a 3/4 oz bushing for a 7/8 oz. load. Currently I load STS hulls, 12.4 gr. Perfect Pattern, grey 7/8 oz Clay Buster wad, 1 oz. 7.5 shot and a Cheddite or Remington primer. On my MEC 650 it takes a #14 bushing. Randy

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I switched everything to titegroup, cartridges and shotshell. It seems to be the most consistently available (and cheaper) powder online and in shops. 3 grains in .38 and 13 grains with 1 oz. And grey wads in 12 gauge.

I load AA and STS hulls. 13 grains PP 3/4 wad and 3/4 shot with a lee load all Have not had any issues

I’ve shot this as my main rifle quite a bit.. 38 special 1.435 OAL with 125 grain TC bullet Gun was built by Pioneer GunWorks.. It has Pioneer Gunworks Super Short Stroke kit in it and lightened brass carrier and all the other stuff they normally do to build a fast rifle.. I have a backup ‘73 built the same and switch between the two of them.. Last Sundays match on about the 3rd. Stage the last shot I jacked out a live round.. never done that before.. looked like a light primer strike.. I tightened the hammer spring about 1/4 turn.. Next stage.. cycled great.. but.. jacked out last two rounds.. light hammer strikes again.. I tightened the hammer spring another 1/2 turn.. No more jacked out rounds for the rest of the match.. Gonna tear it down for a deep cleaning tonight.. Looking for things to look for while I’m in there.. If the hammer spring is weak from use?? Will the 3/4 turn last very long? Appreciate yer suggestions.. Thanks Rance

Was in IT for 39 years. Would like to help, but until right now I've never heard of an .apx file. And googling "what is an .apx file" isn't much help without knowing anything about what this .apx app(?) is/does.

More than once, anyway.

I’m in San Antonio 👍🏼

This, Toranado and Turkey Bob did some testing for us. I have loaded both 11.6 and 12.4 in STS hulls but use a taller wad than what they tested to get a better stack height. 11.6 would be by go to when my clay dot stash is gone. tested some 38spl but got pretty erratic results with lite loads so I abandoned the idea for now. Maybe others have had better luck Toranado, SASS # 58447 Posted December 22, 2023 As I start to run out of my favorite Shotshell powder Clays, and refuse to pay the $40plus price per pound for Claydot where available, I did some searching a few months ago and bought some Hodgdon Perfect Pattern powder as it had some loads listed that may make it a good alternative for cowboy shotgun powder. PLUS IT SELLS FOR ABOUT $27 PER POUND if you buy 8# from like powdervalley, but I also just picked up another 8#er at Sportsman's Warehouse for about the same price. I asked my good friend and club TG, Turkey Bob to do some test loads as I drove off to sunny Arizona and left him back here in Chicago! (just trying to keep him busy in that midwestern cold weather!! LOL). Well he did a pretty comprehensive testing data along with chronographing all the loads. The results are posted below, and the conclusion is, it makes a really good cowboy round for shot shells. I've included my usual loads for comparison along with some factory rounds testing he did. I'll probably when I start loading it use the load that gets just over 900 fps, (13a) but enjoy the data and hope it helps. It's a very fine powder so uses some small bushings, but the rounds knocked down our toughest shotgun targets during testing also.

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close enough ?

Maybe but he sure makes the wire more interesting.

I have only used it for shotgun shells. I use a MEC 13a powder bushing. I use for 1 ounce and 1 1/8 ounce loads.

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Were any of your brothers of Irish extraction? If so they could have been hollering racism along with police brutality. (A "paddy wagon", as everyone should be aware, was originally used to take all the drunk Irish - the paddies - to the calaboso.)

Eastbound and down!

UNFORTUNATELY THERE’S NO LIFEGUARD AT THE GENE POOL

Perfect Pattern is VERY dense. It's hard to fill shotshells up to make a good crimp. But, I have shot Remington STS, Nitros, Gun Clubs with about 14 grains of PP, 7/8 ounce shot, a 3/4 ounce CB0175 wad and most any primer. Low pressure, low recoil. Adjust until you can make a good load, ,but you will probably have the wad just sitting on the powder, or even floating a little, which Hodgdon techs have said is just fine to do (just be careful not to push the wad stack down too deep as you apply final crimp). That CB0175 wad takes up about as much room as any 12 gauge wad on the market, so it's great for Perfect Pattern loading. Powder should work fine in .38 specials, about same as you dropped with Clays, but I no longer load .38 special to even test it out. YMMV, but these are light loads and should be no pressure problems. good luck, GJ

Hodgdon has load data for 7/8 oz 12 ga loads. Starting loads may be a little hot but I would bet that you could reduce the load down by 1/2 to 1 full grain without too many problems. If the stack height is too far off just add a cheerio or dried bean to the shot cup.

I don't recall and fluted cylinder option from uberti