J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 At a shoot today, we had a cowboy with a squib and didn't stop quick enough when the RO yelled, SQUIB...STOP! No injuries but now has a split barrel. Any one know if and where a replacement barrel can be found? Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Not going to be easy to find. Probably best to send it to Marlin for replacement. There's an old thread from 2011 discussing the same issue. The answer was to send it to Marlin. They will undo any action work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Marlin has not existed for over ten years. The name was bought by Remington and when they went bust by Ruger. I would call Ruger and ask if the new barrels are compatible with the old guns. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 This is the policy on Ruger's website. I would still call and see if a new barrel will fit and more importantly if it will fit will Ruger sell you a barrel. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Brown Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 You did not specify caliber. ON GunBroker Round barrel 38/357- New York so Remington. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1057346144 Oct CB - 45- Cowboy limited - Pre Remington https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1058390473 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Eye Joe Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 44 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Marlin has not existed for over ten years. The name was bought by Remington and when they went bust by Ruger. I would call Ruger and ask if the new barrels are compatible with the old guns. Try a hundred and ten years lol, Marlin changed hands a few times. None of the models we see today were even thought up by Mr Marlin. A more accurate date of the name being bought would be in 1915, when the Marlin family sold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 (edited) I would contact Snake Oil George out in Oklahoma. He does pistols with octagon barrels of various calibers. He might be able to produce a rifle length, octagon barrel. Good luck. P.S. - Where did it split? If its out towards the muzzle, it might be salvageable by cutting off any length over 16 inches. If its back towards the chamber, it can still be cut off, rechamsbered and threaded to the receiver........ all this assuming your final barrel OAL is 16 inches or more. I think 16 inches is the legal minimum. ..........Widder Edited September 1 by Widder, SASS #59054 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 1 hour ago, Jim Brown said: You did not specify caliber.... I'd be willing to bet it was a .45. Hard to believe that a cowboy .38 could do more than bulge a barrel, thicker barrel wall and all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Jim Brown said: You did not specify caliber. ON GunBroker Round barrel 38/357- New York so Remington. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1057346144 Oct CB - 45- Cowboy limited - Pre Remington https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1058390473 Currently a 44-40, Elmer Fudd split muzzle style. Thank you for the links. If the bolt would work for 45 Colt, 44 mag/special that may be an option. I'll pass this along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: I would contact Snake Oil George out in Oklahoma. He does pistols with octagon barrels of various calibers. He might be able to produce a rifle length, octagon barrel. Good luck. P.S. - Where did it split? If its out towards the muzzle, it might be salvageable by cutting off any length over 16 inches. If its back towards the chamber, it can still be cut off, rechamsbered and threaded to the receiver........ all this assuming your final barrel OAL is 16 inches or more. I think 16 inches is the legal minimum. ..........Widder Thank you, I'll let the shooter know. It's a 44-40 barrel length of 24" split about 6-7" from muzzle. May get a 16-17" barrel length if cut down. We have a local smith that can cut, crown and mill a dovetail for the sight. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Eeyour Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 You might want to look or contact Green Mountain https://www.gmriflebarrel.com/lever-action-rifle-barrels/tapered-octagon-barrels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 i cant blame them at all , as a matter of fact i had ordered one in 4570 back in those days and the rep showed up at the club i work at and told me id not be getting mine , it did have a "name" attached to the order that had some industry influence both then and now , i got some "barnes bullets: to go away from that order - i did and ended up wth a shharps that im very pleased with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidScott Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 15 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: I would contact Snake Oil George out in Oklahoma. He does pistols with octagon barrels of various calibers. He might be able to produce a rifle length, octagon barrel. Good luck. P.S. - Where did it split? If its out towards the muzzle, it might be salvageable by cutting off any length over 16 inches. If its back towards the chamber, it can still be cut off, rechamsbered and threaded to the receiver........ all this assuming your final barrel OAL is 16 inches or more. I think 16 inches is the legal minimum. ..........Widder Whatever Widder says about a Marlin is what I would do. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 This is why I only shoot gallery loads in match guns for SASS Just the minimum. Had a friend stack 3 rounds in a Uberti 66 using min load data after a squib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Try Winchester Barrels Largo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 This is sad!! I had a couple of squibs (not at same time or on top of each other) and got an RCBS Lock Out die. They are MAGIC! I don’t know how they work - don’t care. They work! Over or under charge case? You can NOT advance press! Around $60. I have one on each tool head. Hope the barrel can be salvaged. Hugs! Scarlett 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sobrante Kid Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Some limitations using that RCBS Lock-Out die, but a great option. From RCBS, "The Lock-Out Die detects a "no powder" or "double charge" condition in the progressive reloading process. It locks up, halting the travel of the ram, and alerting the reloader to the problem so the cause can be corrected. It will not let reloaders continue without removing the improperly charged cartridge. The Lock-Out Die is for use with straight-wall pistol calibers, 9mm and larger, and only on progressive reloading presses." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 34 minutes ago, El Sobrante Kid said: Some limitations using that RCBS Lock-Out die, but a great option. From RCBS, "The Lock-Out Die detects a "no powder" or "double charge" condition in the progressive reloading process. It locks up, halting the travel of the ram, and alerting the reloader to the problem so the cause can be corrected. It will not let reloaders continue without removing the improperly charged cartridge. The Lock-Out Die is for use with straight-wall pistol calibers, 9mm and larger, and only on progressive reloading presses." Thanks.. I didn't realize that it was only for straight walled cartridges however, I don't see why it wouldn't work with the 44-40... the mouth of the case is large enough... I also load 32 HR and the Lock Out die is too large to go in case... but it is an APP load so I can see the powder when loading that one! Hugs! Scarlett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 On 9/4/2024 at 12:43 PM, Scarlett said: Thanks.. I didn't realize that it was only for straight walled cartridges however, I don't see why it wouldn't work with the 44-40... the mouth of the case is large enough... I also load 32 HR and the Lock Out die is too large to go in case... but it is an APP load so I can see the powder when loading that one! It does work with 44-40s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 I Try Winchester Barrels I just looked.Winchester Barrels is still there.Looks like about 550.00 for a new barrel. Largo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 9/1/2024 at 7:09 PM, J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 said: It's a 44-40 barrel length of 24" split about 6-7" from muzzle. May get a 16-17" barrel length if cut down. We have a local smith that can cut, crown and mill a dovetail for the sight. ya got this.. Widder quoted a great (cheapest) repair for ya.. Just sayin’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 On 9/1/2024 at 7:09 PM, J.S. Sooner, SASS #73526 said: It's a 44-40 barrel length of 24" split about 6-7" from muzzle. May get a 16-17" barrel length if cut down. We have a local smith that can cut, crown and mill a dovetail for the sight. It'll also need the shallow dovetail for the magazine hanger Back when Wild Bunch started up, I considered having a Marlin 1894 converted to run the 45Auto, but... I recalled an article from back in the early-mid '80s where one was done. The barrel was rebored to a .451 groove diameter and new chamber cut for the 45Auto. The problem they encountered was reliable extraction... Or at least that was my take-away on the article. But... I ran into a deal locally where a feller had a 44Mag Marlin and a 45 Colt Cowboy barrel that he was willing to part with. The poor gun looked like it'd spent several seasons at the bottom of a pond, or at least in the middle of a humidifier. Rusted, but operable. I cut the bbl to 17", sanded down the receiver to rid it of most rust, replaced the wood, welded up the hole for the saddle ring... made Widder's modification to run the Cowboy45Special and it only awaits a trip to Turnbull's for case coloring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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