vidette Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Wet tumbling 90min with a cascade complete dishwasher tab on some once fired new brass and getting these smears on the brass. Any ideas? Edited May 19 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) These cases are obviously defective and will cause your bullets to miss there intended target. You should send them to me for proper disposal LOL or you could try a different cleaning solution, I use Brass Juice but most use Dawn. Edited May 19 by Nickel City Dude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) I've been wet tumbling for years. I always use a little Strat-O-Sheen powder (see the link below) in my washing solution, and for the last few years, no SS pins. My detergent is a little bit of Dawn and I do add a little bit of Lemme Shine. I tumble for at least 2 hours. Strat-O-Sheen Powder Burnishing Compound - RioGrande Edited May 19 by TN Mongo, SASS #61450 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Sackett Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Maybe the dishwasher tab had some strong chemicals in it that reacted with the brass. I don’t know of anyone that has used them, so don’t know if that could be it or not. Might be a reason that no one else uses them? Sam Sackett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Make sure that you rinse the cases with clean water. Once they have been thoroughly rinsed, lay them out to air dry. I lay mine on a raised wire mesh that is covered with a towel. Final step - with the brass laid out on the towel, roll them back and forth. This gets the water droplets off the cases. That's how I do it. Usually come out pretty good. BS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 The discoloration looks too regular and on one side to be random. What were they laying on? Imis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I use a little Cascade powder and haven’t had any weird staining like that. I also use the pins and if the brass is tarnished a squirt all lime away gets added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacotua Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I use dawn dish soap and lemishine. I don't use the stainless pins anymore in tumbling, I just let it go for 2-3 hours and they are generally clean enough. After I have my brass clean, if I want them bright and shiny, I throw them in a walnut vibrating tumbler with Metal Polish, I generally allow them to polish for at least 8 hours (I throw them in before I go to work, when I get home they are like new). It really doesn't matter how they look on the outside, so long as they are clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 30 minutes ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said: The discoloration looks too regular and on one side to be random. What were they laying on? Imis Yep, I agree with this. Whatever they were set on to dry reacted with the cleaner you used and didn't get rinsed well enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidette Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 (edited) Forgot to mention these were heat dried using a Frankford Arsenal dryer. Perhaps there was cleaning chemical left over on the surface when drying and caused discoloration (I do thoroughly rinse the brass after tumbling). As far as the stain pattern being repeated, it might be that these three pieces were laying on their side the same way when drying. All pieces are discolorized to some degree , in different shapes and patterns. Edited May 19 by vidette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidette Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 I just finished a batch with only dawn soap. No stains. I’ll see how they look after drying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 10 minutes ago, Griff said: Yep, I agree with this. Whatever they were set on to dry reacted with the cleaner you used and didn't get rinsed well enough. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I use a 1x6 with 3-inch finishing nails. I nailed them 5 in a row for 100. While brass is wet put them on nails. Set out in sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 When a batch of brass has finished tumbling I use the Lyman hand cracked squirrel cage to separate the brass from pins and rinse with clean water. Then dump them out on a couple layers of paper towels covering small table. They are dry the next morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 That type of Cascade has a transitional metal catalyst as an ingredient. That may have reacted with the brass. Armor All Wash and Wax cleans well and the wax seems to add a little lube to the cases. Works for me (without pins). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 hours ago, vidette said: Forgot to mention these were heat dried using a Frankford Arsenal dryer. Perhaps there was cleaning chemical left over on the surface when drying and caused discoloration (I do thoroughly rinse the brass after tumbling). As far as the stain pattern being repeated, it might be that these three pieces were laying on their side the same way when drying. All pieces are discolorized to some degree , in different shapes and patterns. Rinse the cases twice, coming out of the tumbler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Vidette, the TN State match is two weeks, you coming? Imis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidette Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 18 hours ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said: Vidette, the TN State match is two weeks, you coming? Imis Wouldn't miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Barrel, SASS 34765 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Looks like you’re trying to get Purly’s special marks off again. You might as well just give them back to him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 ive never found the stains a problem - i get a lot of brass back thats not mine at shoots ...BP guys brass , they stain , i clean and reload then shoot again , i dont need my rounds to be all shiny and bright , i get a bit of blowby with my smokeless so i get a bit of that too , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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