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Where are you Frontiersman shootists getting percussion caps these days?  I want to stock up for next season if I can find a place to get a thousand or so...

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Last I found were at Walmart. CCI. They are poorly made now, the primer compound is off to one side! They work fine on my muzzleloader, but sit too high on my pistols and hit the recoil shield. Sure hope Remingtons come back soon! Good luck in your search.

 

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5 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Last I found were at Walmart. CCI. They are poorly made now, the primer compound is off to one side! They work fine on my muzzleloader, but sit too high on my pistols and hit the recoil shield. Sure hope Remingtons come back soon! Good luck in your search.

 

 

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Just now, Brasspounder said:

 

I never did care for CCI caps...they tend to fragment irregularly and tend to tie up the revolver on the recoil shield.

Remington caps never had this problem and tend to open up into four neat petals and just fall out the side when you cock the revolver for the next shot.  I typically find only one or maybe two still in the cylinder nipple recesses when clearing the guns after a stage.  MIsfires and cap jams never were a problem with the Remington 10's or 11's.

I hope the OLIN outfit gets them back on the market soon!  They do list them in their product line. 

 

RWS caps No. 1078 also tended to work well, but I haven't found any of those anywhere for a looong time.

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2 hours ago, Deacon Doug said:

There are kits out there to make your own.

 

DD

I have one of those, but the finished product is not suitable at all for CAS competition revolver shooting.. 

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1 hour ago, Brasspounder said:

RWS caps No. 1078 also tended to work well, but I haven't found any of those anywhere for a looong time

A couple of years ago I bought 2,500 RWS Plus while they were available at MidwayUSA.   I found they fragmented more than I liked.  When I got 1,000 CCI #11 and they seem to work better. I took the unopened cans of RWS to my favorite gun shop and sold them for what I had in them. Next time I dropped in, he had a few cans left and had priced them about $5/250 more than I sold them to him.  Still a fair price then and even better now as they have doubled in price since - if you can find them. 

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5 hours ago, Brasspounder said:

I have one of those, but the finished product is not suitable at all for CAS competition revolver shooting.. 

Did you use the cap rolls or the Prime-All mix? Was it the general unreliability or the way they split and fell off when fired?

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I have also had bad luck with the new run of CCI caps. I have tried the Slix, Tresso and even factory nipples. They all have poor results but my best luck was with factory nipples. My uneducated guess is CCI is more focused on muzzleloader guns and not revolvers. They are perfect on a single shot firearm that does not rotate. Remington had the machinery that worked well with revolvers and single shot guns. We can all wish for more of Remington #10 return but I am not going to place a cash bet that we will ever see that happen. I have settled my mindset that getting four of five first ignition in a match is our new reality. I still shoot Frontiersman and still have fun. Just the view from my saddle. DC

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Check with Mid-South, Natchez, or Graf's, they had RWS 1075, same diam as Remington #10, but the skirt length is shorter.  Worked fine on my 1851s with SlickShot nipples.  

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Griff...

 

Thanks for the suggestions..  I'll check em out. 

BP

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1 hour ago, High Spade Mikey Wilson said:

Somebody needs to come up with a hammer and a nipple that can use small pistol primers

I watched a video where a guy shortened the nipples a little and used a band made from vinyl hose to hold small pistol primer on. Don't know if I can find it back. 

 

Found it.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said:

I watched a video where a guy shortened the nipples a little and used a band made from vinyl hose to hold small pistol primer on. Don't know if I can find it back. 

 

 

 

 

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Very interesting!  Thanks for sharing this with us.

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About 10 years ago when Gander Mountain was going out of business. 

Everything in the store except firearms was 50% off .

 

I went in with my credit card in hand .

I bought Every #10 Remington cap ., Every Large pistol primer &  every bottle of APP & Unique they had in the store .

 

I have not had to buy any powder primers or caps sence then .

 

I think I still have enough to last me about 10 more years or so.

 

Im Not trying to brag ,

It was a very expensive day !

 

But I can't imagine what I have saved over the years , And I never got gouged during all the BS going on.

 

Rooster

 

 

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When demand gets high enough, supply will happen.  It's just painful to wait until it happens.

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I dont know if this helps,  a number of years ago when we werent matching the cones to the caps as well I used a method that was kind of a pain to do but worked well.  I used the stock cones and bought some fish tank air line that was flexible { like rubber} and made small rubber bands to go around each cap.  The rubber bands were very thin to not hinder the hammer hitting the cap.  Takes longer to load and you have some homework to do before the match.  This was quite a few years ago when CCI made better caps they were just to loose.   Bullett  

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