Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 This plane is supposed to quiet the sonic booms to a “thump “ instead. Over 900 mph https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/nasa-unveils-the-revolutionary-x-59-quesst-quiet-supersonic-jet-9-photos-video/ar-AA1mTtBj More here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_X-59_Quesst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 So....sorta like black powder compared to smokeless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 17 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: So....sorta like black powder compared to smokeless! Good analogy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Live Sci-Fi. Cool! That plane looks like cover art for a book by Robert Heinlein or Isaac Asimov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 So...another GIANT investment in a Mach 1.4 aircraft for supposedly commercial applications. Why? There was already a plane (SST) for that purpose, that was a commercial failure and a big boondoggle for the companies involved, although a lot of that was hidden from investors until too late. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool plane and all as was the SST. Just can't see why it was needed and wonder if taxpayer money went to develop it. All to reduce sonic booms...seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 31 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: So...another GIANT investment in a Mach 1.4 aircraft for supposedly commercial applications. Why? There was already a plane (SST) for that purpose, that was a commercial failure and a big boondoggle for the companies involved, although a lot of that was hidden from investors until too late. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool plane and all as was the SST. Just can't see why it was needed and wonder if taxpayer money went to develop it. All to reduce sonic booms...seriously? It creates jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 It ain't gonna run on batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Looks like a Woodpecker on Steroids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: So...another GIANT investment in a Mach 1.4 aircraft for supposedly commercial applications. Why? There was already a plane (SST) for that purpose, that was a commercial failure and a big boondoggle for the companies involved, although a lot of that was hidden from investors until too late. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool plane and all as was the SST. Just can't see why it was needed and wonder if taxpayer money went to develop it. All to reduce sonic booms...seriously? Research and experimentation almost always pays off. Otherwise we would still be in caves and hunting with pointed sticks and clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Research and experimentation almost always pays off. Otherwise we would still be in caves and hunting with pointed sticks and clubs. You're absolutley right!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Research and experimentation almost always pays off. Otherwise we would still be in caves and hunting with pointed sticks and clubs. What? You got a problem with caves, pointed sticks and clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 23 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: What? You got a problem with caves, pointed sticks and clubs? Not at all, but I prefer cotton fabric to hides, clean running water to muddy ponds, and hot showers to sometimes washing hands and face in said muddy ponds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 30 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: What? You got a problem with caves, pointed sticks and clubs? Guns are kinda cool though! Glad they were invented!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I suspect an engine failure in the X-59 gets interesting, it's not likely to glide very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Research and experimentation almost always pays off. Otherwise we would still be in caves and hunting with pointed sticks and clubs. Exactly without research into the space program, we wouldn’t have Tang! And without MIB we wouldn’t have Velcro! (saw that on the internet, so must be true) Regards Gateway Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 7 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: So...another GIANT investment in a Mach 1.4 aircraft for supposedly commercial applications. Why? There was already a plane (SST) for that purpose, that was a commercial failure and a big boondoggle for the companies involved, although a lot of that was hidden from investors until too late. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool plane and all as was the SST. Just can't see why it was needed and wonder if taxpayer money went to develop it. All to reduce sonic booms...seriously? The Concordes weren’t allowed to fly over land because of the sonic booms, so there’s never been a civilian/commercial coast-to-coast supersonic flight. This is a test bed for the shape of a “minimal-boom” aircraft which has lots of applications, but it still doesn’t solve the economic equation. The problem with SSTs is they can’t build them big enough to hold enough paying passengers to turn a profit as the physics of supersonic flight constrains their size. Plus, the power and fuel requirements for a larger plane would be astronomical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said: Exactly without research into the space program, we wouldn’t have Tang! And without MIB we wouldn’t have Velcro! (saw that on the internet, so must be true) Regards Gateway Kid Here’s some more..,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 3 hours ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said: Exactly And without MIB we wouldn’t have Velcro! (saw that on the internet, so must be true) Regards Gateway Kid You're wrong. We got it from the Vulcans. T'Pol's grandmother sold it to the Big Creek Manufacturing and Sales Company in 1957, as told by T'Pol in an episode of "Star Trek: Enterprise", Season 2 Episode 2 titled "Carbon Creek". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: You're wrong. We got it from the Vulcans. T'Pol's grandmother sold it to the Big Creek Manufacturing and Sales Company in 1957, as told by T'Pol in an episode of "Star Trek: Enterprise", Season 2 Episode 2 titled "Carbon Creek". Now hold on just a minute here! I just reviewed Men in Black and K definitely told J that the aliens gave us velcro at the worlds fair back in the early '50's! I am thinking a good copyright lawyer might need to be involved here! Regards (just goofing around wit ya) Gateway Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said: Now hold on just a minute here! I just reviewed Men in Black and K definitely told J that the aliens gave us velcro at the worlds fair back in the early '50's! I am thinking a good copyright lawyer might need to be involved here! Regards (just goofing around wit ya) Gateway Kid This is my theory: Big Creek Manufacturing was taken over by some bigger company that could back engineer Velcro. It was revealed by that company at the World's Fair that K mentioned. K DID say aliens. Here's the proof!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: It creates jobs! Not for the near future. It will take years for any technology change to be incorporated into anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 7 hours ago, Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life said: Not for the near future. It will take years for any technology change to be incorporated into anything new. Im talking about the people making the planes now! NASA employs lots of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 NASA doesn't make anything, they contract everything out! I spent 40 years in the industry and NASA is basically only administrators, engineers and bean counters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life said: NASA doesn't make anything, they contract everything out! I spent 40 years in the industry and NASA is basically only administrators, engineers and bean counters. Those are jobs aren’t they? If they contract out they’re still creating jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 46 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Those are jobs aren’t they? If they contract out they’re still creating jobs! By the time the testing get done and the results analyzed, it will be at least 5 years before anything is designed and put into production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Tang was around before NASA used it. Velcro came from some guy (in Switzerland, I think) observed cockleburs sticking to his dog's fur! The Boeing SST project was cancelled when Congress passed a law prohibiting supersonic flight by commercial airliners over the continental U.S. That basically insured the economic failure of the Concord. The interesting thing about the X-59 is it has no forward windscreen! Much like the Star Trek Enterprise, the pilot will have to depend on a forward TV. Great idea aerodynamically...unless the T.V. goes out! Ejection seats anyone? "In the event of failure of the view screen, passengers are instructed to sit up straight, grasp the armrests and pull up sharply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 21 minutes ago, Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life said: By the time the testing get done and the results analyzed, it will be at least 5 years before anything is designed and put into production. I understand but there’s people working right now because of NASA! I don’t understand what point you’re making. All I’m saying is NASA creates jobs. Who does the testing and analysis? People do! Those are jobs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 8 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Im talking about the people making the planes now! NASA employs lots of people. This is what you posted. They are not making planes now and NASA doesn't make planes....never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life said: This is what you posted. They are not making planes now and NASA doesn't make planes....never have. I’m not saying NASA is making the planes but someone is making the planes because of NASA. That’s my point. I don’t know what your point is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 5 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: The interesting thing about the X-59 is it has no forward windscreen! Neither did Lindbergh’s Spirit of St. Louis. Since TV hadn’t been invented yet, he had a periscope. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 16 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Neither did Lindbergh’s Spirit of St. Louis. Since TV hadn’t been invented yet, he had a periscope. Amazing. Well, he wasn't going supersonic, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Well, he wasn't going supersonic, either. I guarantee that his flight was far more perilous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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