Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I have a naive question about Powder Coated Bullets . I have been exclusively shooting BP & BP Substitutes for the last ten years now . So I have been casting and lubeing my own bullets to do it with . In the last few years this smokeless powder fad & Powder coated bullets have gotten bigger and bigger . So my question is ? Can I use Powder coated bullets with Real Black powder & or Substitute Black Powder ? I just tried sum powder coated bullets with Unique and I liked it well enough, So it got me to thing about the dark side ? Thank you in advance. Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 My understanding is that BP and PC don't play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Sackett Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 You can’t use them with real BP unless you add a compatible lube. The lube is what keeps the fouling soft. You can use them with APP because APP makes its own lube and you supposedly do not need any lube, even with bare bullets. With real BP I’d suggest you use plain lead bullets with a soft lube. Sam Sackett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Blade, #25657 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 I use Scarlett's .452, .427, and .313 powder coated bullets with APP and Trple Se7en. They work great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Montana Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Hi-tek coated bullets and APP work together just fine as mentioned above by @Sam Sackett, no need for lube.. Both can found at Bullets by Scarlett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Moly-coated from Bear Creek Supply work very well with BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 I don't buy bullets. I just make what ever I need at that time . I just did not see how powder coated bullets was going to work with real BP . I figured they would work just fine with APP. Thank you . Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I tried coated bullets in my 1873 Springfield musket and the results were terrable. After about the 3rd bullet I had a great deal of trouble getting them down the barrle. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 105s, 125s, 135s, and 147s. work for me with Trip Seven 2f... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Hy Ya Rooster Back to yer original question: NO. Coated bullets DO NOT play well with BP. BIG PLUS ONE for Sam Sackett. BP lube is required regardless when shooting BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: I have a naive question about Powder Coated Bullets . I have been exclusively shooting BP & BP Substitutes for the last ten years now . So I have been casting and lubeing my own bullets to do it with . In the last few years this smokeless powder fad & Powder coated bullets have gotten bigger and bigger . So my question is ? Can I use Powder coated bullets with Real Black powder & or Substitute Black Powder ? I just tried sum powder coated bullets with Unique and I liked it well enough, So it got me to thing about the dark side ? Thank you in advance. Rooster I just shot the Texas State Black Powder match this past weekend using bulletboss.com coated bullets using BlackMZ. I know a number of cowboys that shot APP using the same bullets from them without any issue. TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Well of course you didn't have any problems with Black MZ and no problems with APP. Both are the same formulation, make their own lubricant and play quite well with coated bullets. Or bullets without coats, just sweaters. Or Nude. Tiz the way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Well of course you didn't have any problems with Black MZ and no problems with APP. Both are the same formulation, make their own lubricant and play quite well with coated bullets. Or bullets without coats, just sweaters. Or Nude. Tiz the way it works. Actually, the rounds he was using...assuming he got them from a friend of ours (we use the same "formula"), is 777 in the rifle and fffg BP in the revolvers. All rounds use Bullet Boss 125gr Hi-Tek coated bullets. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Actually, the rounds he was using...assuming he got them from a friend of ours (we use the same "formula"), is 777 in the rifle and fffg BP in the revolvers. All rounds use Bullet Boss 125gr Hi-Tek coated bullets. Phantom Hey Phantom, nope, I actually did them myself after WK sold me a pound of the BlackMZ. I used 1.3 cc of BlackMZ with my 125 grain BulletBoss lead. He did make my shotgun shells and said they were real black. Glad you were able to come down and join us. Even though I ended up with a MDQ on the last gun on the last stage. I guess if you are gonna get one that is the way to do it so you get to shoot the whole match. LOL TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Clarification - powder coating is for metals and generally contains large amounts of silica. The coating you want for bullets is POLYMER and contains no silica. Hi-Tek is the most common however, there are others. Hugs! Scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Most of the shooters who coat their own bullets seem to do the powder coating. The bullet manufacturers are more commonly using the Hi Tek or other polymer coatings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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