H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: I had an OLD Henry with lots of parts that are no longer made and the parts in it were so far out of spec it was basically useless. I was going to make it into a Transitional Henry so I bought the Transitional forearm and loading gate before I found out the Henry was junk. I had a .32-20 Uberti 73 I had converted to .32 Mag but decided to convert it to something else. So I pulled the barrels and started measuring. The Henry frame is longer in the front than the 66 or 73 so I cut off the front of the Henry frame and made a spacer out of it to space and seat the barrel properly. Turned out to be a bigger PITA that I thought it would be. The biggest problem, and something I had not anticipated, was the center to center distance between the mag tube and barrel on the Henry was much closer together that the 73 with its separate mag tube. Finally got everything together and working. It is an interesting piece. That IS interesting. If anyone ever organizes a "Frankengun" shoot, this would clearly qualify! Tempted to start a separate thread on that concept, but I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Several years ago I bought this PUMA new which has a brass receiver and a stainless steel 24" barrel. I have never fired this rifle.. Rossi PUMA M92 66062164 MODEL 92 45 Long Colt Lever Action Brass/Stainless Stl Puma 92 Octagon Stainless / Brass 24" 45 LC NEW! Factory New & unfired Puma M-92 Stainless Octagon barrel/ Brass receiver lever-action rifle in .45 Long Colt. 24" Octagon SS bbl w/ adjustable rear & steel blade front sights. Straight hardwood rifle stock. part # 52012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I’ve always wanted an italian Henry. They’re never in .44 spl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 4:00 PM, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Probably depends of how early. The teens and twentys maybe. Henrys weren't that valuable back then and the factories still loaded ammo. The old west rimfires were all pretty much discontinued by the mid-1930s. The .44 Henry being rimfire could not, as a practical matter, be reloaded and the ammo was gone by the forties. The Henry in one of my favorite westerns filmed at Old Tucson Studio, Arizona, where William Holden is using what I would consider an original Henry, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said: The Henry in one of my favorite westerns filmed at Old Tucson Studio, Arizona, where William Holden is using what I would consider an original Henry, yes? That was "Arizona". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: That was "Arizona". Yup, that is why I put Arizona in commas above, could remember Jean Arthur's name but she was the one that gave him the rifle for the cattle drive. Perhaps there were more rim fire shells in 1939, or they actually took an original and "changed" it so it could fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Bringing back this topic, as I was hunting for this pic before, but only just found it. Looks like a '73 painted gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I just saw that episode a couple of days ago. Took awhile to figure it out. Since it was 1960 there were no reproductions. Using original 73s allowed that them to use 5 in 1 blanks and 73s back then were dirt cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 4:18 AM, WOLFY said: I’ve always wanted an italian Henry. They’re never in .44 spl. I have talked to several gunsmiths over the years about sleeving a 45 or smithing a 44/40 to turn it in to a 44 Special . I never found anyone willing to do it or even saying it could be done . Uberti did build a very few 44 Specials a long time ago . I have sighed different petitions over the years to ask Uberti to make them for one more run with all of the pre-sold with No luck again . I think Coffenmaker has a 44 special in a Henry . I did find one online in Australia a few years ago . But it was like 2k for the rifle and another 2k to bring it back to America . I passed on it . Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Johns Wolf Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 A few years ago I had a steel frame Uberti in .44 Spec. My smith only so slighty filed the front of the carrier to reliably load and shoot my favorite cowboy cartridge .44 Colt. Holds 15 rounds in the tube & is highly accurate even at longer distances up to 200 yards. Before that I had brass frame Uberti Henry in .44-40 that the same smith modified to shoot the .44 Colt by setting back the barrel. After the mod. the tube only held 14 rounds of .44 Colt. A pard sweet talked me to sell it to him. This smith did the same job to a friend of mine's Henry and also to two ASP 73s originally of .44-40 cal. The mods needed to alter these lifter type lever guns from .44-40 to a straight .44 cal. cartridge - either .44 Spec. or .44 Colt - in addition to setting back the barrel are limited. Like the barrel the tube and the lifter will have to be shortened, and some spacer fitted into the carrier housing to adjust the shorter housing to the length of the straight cartridge. Long Johns Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Because they primarily used the 5 in 1 blanks the majority of the movie henry's were modified 92's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Taylor,SASS#14359 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I also have a Rossi brass rifle in 357, bought from a dealer in Texas around 15 years ago. Looks good but shoots terrible , doesn't feed right, stovepipes , and jams constantly. I changed the ejector spring , modified the interior side plates and lightened the main spring. Nothing helped , should probably send it to Steve Young,never got around to it , shoot my 73's instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 10:34 PM, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Some Rossi's came with brass receivers. These are solid brass, not plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 All with brass receivers n the safe. … Uberti 1866, Rossi 1892 and Winchester 1894 30-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Aline MacMahon carried a Henry in the 1955 James Stewart Western "The Man From Laramie". Notice the tab -- It wasn't loaded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 The two (one in 44-40, and one in 45) that Coffinmaker built me were inspired by this one, converted by a Peruvian gunsmith in the late 1880s No engraving (that would be nice!), loading gate (a copy of the original Henry's Patent Loading Gate -- like a hinged door), barrel shortened at the point where it goes from octagon-to-round. It handles like a dream with a bit shorter barrel, and still holds 10 44-40s, and the 45 holds even more C45S cartridges. He's a master! --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 9:25 AM, Frontier Lone Rider said: Several years ago I bought this PUMA new which has a brass receiver and a stainless steel 24" barrel. I have never fired this rifle.. Rossi PUMA M92 66062164 MODEL 92 45 Long Colt Lever Action Brass/Stainless Stl Puma 92 Octagon Stainless / Brass 24" 45 LC NEW! Factory New & unfired Puma M-92 Stainless Octagon barrel/ Brass receiver lever-action rifle in .45 Long Colt. 24" Octagon SS bbl w/ adjustable rear & steel blade front sights. Straight hardwood rifle stock. part # 52012 Wish I had bought the blue version in .44 mag and the remove the forearm so, I think, look like the rifles John Wayne held up in the Commancheros I still will look to try and recreate that one mainly because it was in his movie and I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said: The two (one in 44-40, and one in 45) that Coffinmaker built me were inspired by this one, converted by a Peruvian gunsmith in the late 1880s No engraving (that would be nice!), loading gate (a copy of the original Henry's Patent Loading Gate -- like a hinged door), barrel shortened at the point where it goes from octagon-to-round. It handles like a dream with a bit shorter barrel, and still holds 10 44-40s, and the 45 holds even more C45S cartridges. He's a master! --Dawg Even the case is cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I,m looking into brazing in a steel sleeve and recutting the chamber to .44spl, however the remaining material might be too thin... (even if it,s only supporting the back half of the .44spl cartridge). Anyone know how difficult it is to remove the barrel/mag assembly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Joel McCrea used a real Henry rifle in "Union Pacific" from 1939. It was very shiny; maybe nickled? I suspect it came out of a musem; CB DeMille had that kind of clout. (The golden spike used at the ceremony to mark the end of the construction of the transcontinental railroad in the film was the same spike actually used in the May 10, 1869, event, on loan from Stanford University.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 9:25 AM, Frontier Lone Rider said: Several years ago I bought this PUMA new which has a brass receiver and a stainless steel 24" barrel. I have never fired this rifle.. Rossi PUMA M92 66062164 MODEL 92 45 Long Colt Lever Action Brass/Stainless Stl Puma 92 Octagon Stainless / Brass 24" 45 LC NEW! Factory New & unfired Puma M-92 Stainless Octagon barrel/ Brass receiver lever-action rifle in .45 Long Colt. 24" Octagon SS bbl w/ adjustable rear & steel blade front sights. Straight hardwood rifle stock. part # 52012 If it was in .44 mag I would be making an offer even though I would have preferred blued instead of stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 11:00 PM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Bringing back this topic, as I was hunting for this pic before, but only just found it. Looks like a '73 painted gold Looking at this image, at first I thought it was Henry Rifle on a 73 frame. But a careful second looks says it's just a 73 with the forestock removed. That being said, the way the barrel and magazine are nickeled and the "brassed" frame looks really nifty. I wonder whatever happened to this gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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