Black RZR 55 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) Uberti cattleman 10mm Ok 2 questions. Can you shoot 40 s&w out of this gun? By number spec's of these two rounds, they are same. 10 is longer. So my logic is like shooting 45 cowboy specials out of 45 Colt pistol. Or 38 from 357. 2nd question: is there a single action revolver that I can change cylinder to shoot 9mm? And yes I know I couldn't shoot it cowboy cause of vented barrel. Which is wrong, if we can shoot ruger blackhawks. That's another topic Edited December 18, 2020 by Black RZR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene, SASS # 27489 1,353 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 No. You would need a separate cylinder, because those rounds headspace on the case mouth, so the .40 would slide forward in the 10mm cylinder. Ruger made a dual cylinder 10mm/.40 cal dual cylinder gun, and also I believe a .357/9mm dual cylinder gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,160 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Black RZR said: 2nd question: is there a single action revolver that I can change cylinder to shoot 9mm? As far as cylinder swapping something like a .38 or a .357 to use 9mm in, I would think it would not work very well. .38 Short Colt/Long Colt/Special/.357 magnum all use a .357-.358" bullet. 9mm uses a .355" bullet. I don't know if you'd get decent accuracy through the oversized bore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black RZR 55 Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 Are those ruger dual cylinder single action? They are probably black hawks if they are.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake Slim 323 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Black RZR said: Are those ruger dual cylinder single action? They are probably black hawks if they are.... https://ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkConvertible/models.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,564 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 You really need to look up the specs for both cartridges and think about it a little. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 4,793 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Someone needs to develop a Cowboy 40 Special. A rimmed 40S&W. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,160 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Warden Callaway said: Someone needs to develop a Cowboy 40 Special. A rimmed 40S&W. Wouldn't that basically be .41 Short Colt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Bullweed 480 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The .40 S&W was developed to mimic 10mm FBI low-powered rounds. The FBI started using 10mm after a famous shootout in the 1980s when .38 Specials failed to stop the bad guys before they killed some officers. You can download the 10mm, much like we do with .44 Mag, .45 Colt and other potent rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 473 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Wouldn't that basically be .41 Short Colt? More like a 38-40. Ballisticly almost identical. Edited December 19, 2020 by Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,471 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Uberti made a run of Cattlemen with Cylinders for .38 WCF. and the second in .40 Short & Weak ( S&W )... A Pard has a pair the .40 S&W cylinder has been used maybe 5 times, he uses the .38 WCF cylinder all the time ... But he has a good supply of Hollowpoint ammo in .40 S&W in case things go real bad ... Jabez Cowboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 4,793 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: Uberti made a run of Cattlemen with Cylinders for .38 WCF. and the second in .40 Short & Weak ( S&W )... A Pard has a pair the .40 S&W cylinder has been used maybe 5 times, he uses the .38 WCF cylinder all the time ... But he has a good supply of Hollowpoint ammo in .40 S&W in case things go real bad ... Jabez Cowboy I'd like to locate a Uberti 40 S&W cylinder to go in my Old Model-P 38WCF. Maybe because 40S&W brass is so available at our local range. And it's another case that would be very powder efficient. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,471 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Warden Callaway ; Get a spare .357 mag. cylinder it is an easy job to have it bored out and Chambered to .40 S&W .. That way you can control the cylinder mouth diameter to best advantage ... All the best . Jabez Cowboy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeaconKC 2,208 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: Warden Callaway ; Get a spare .357 mag. cylinder it is an easy job to have it bored out and Chambered to .40 S&W .. That way you can control the cylinder mouth diameter to best advantage ... All the best . Jabez Cowboy Or a 9mm cylinder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,471 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I suggested the .357 Mag cylinder because of the " Heat Treatment" given all Mag. Cylinders ... And because there are ton's of them out there ... Jabez Cowboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,160 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 12:15 AM, Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 said: More like a 38-40. Ballisticly almost identical. Yeah, but .38-40 is a bottlenecked cartridge. It's physically very different from .41 Short Colt, which I figured would very close dimension wise to .40 Smith and wesson, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trailboss (Santa) Dave 29 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I have a pair of the Ruger Blackhawk,s in 10mm/40S&W Have not been able to shoot them much due to the shortages in ammo & primers, I do like the 10mm and have several Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnie riata 0 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I have a pair of FACTORY old model Vaqueros (still in their boxes) that are chambered in straight .40S&W. They were a special run of several hundred back in about 2000. I was told there would not be anymore after that run but obviously there are a few still floating around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy Reb, SASS #54804 126 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Yes the Ruger Blackhawk is avail 357/9mm with 2 different cyl's. The are singe action and usable in most categories. I have 2 of them. 1 I have never used the 9mm cyl, the other is actually more accurate with the 9mm cyl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,564 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Aw Cummon!! All it takes is MONEY. Throw enough MONEY at it, you can have anything you want. Even if it Ain't real practical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene, SASS # 27489 1,353 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Hmmm, would a 9mm full of FFFg make the smoke standard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Three Foot Johnson 2,613 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 52 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Hmmm, would a 9mm full of FFFg make the smoke standard? Depends who's making the call. A .40 S&W case will barely hold the requisite 1cc of BP with a bullet seated. A 9mm will not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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