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Pledge of Allegiance

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Every CAS match starts with the pledge and a prayer.  I don't know of any other group activity that starts with the pledge.  I am a little curious if other types of shooting competitions do it as well?

 

In Texas, as of the last few years most of the clubs I shoot with also recite the Texas pledge after the USA flag.  It's short and pretty easy to remember:  I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.  So I also wonder if any clubs in other states do likewise.

 

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Lots of fraternal and civic organizations start each meeting with the pledge. My boating club, Richmond Sail and Power Squadron, a unit of United States Power Squadrons, a 106 year old international organization of avid boaters, starts every meeting with the pledge.  When I was involved in Scouting as a child and then again, 40 years later, as an adult leader, every meeting started that way. Imagine in most rural areas, that is still the case. 

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28 minutes ago, Ripsaw said:

Imagine in most rural areas, that is still the case. 

 

Every Scout meeting I've been in for last 25 years started with the Pledge of Allegiance and the Boy Scout Oath.  In a good sized city.  (And, they picked up EOT brass too.)

 

I'm not sure any of our local clubs know the NM State pledge.   But our Boy Scouts recited it during every flag retirement ceremony we did.   :wub:

 

Good luck, GJ

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All of the clubs I've shot USPSA, IDPA and ICORE at all start with everyone facing the flag and reciting the pledge of allegiance. There may be exceptions but that's what I have seen.

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I was proud to recite the pledge of allegiance with true American Patriots at my very first match and have been at every match since.

 

I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I don't know the California pledge, but I think it's in Russian now anyway. So there's that...

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18 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said:

All of the clubs I've shot USPSA, IDPA and ICORE at all start with everyone facing the flag and reciting the pledge of allegiance. There may be exceptions but that's what I have seen.

I compete a lot, mostly just the SASS matches have the pledge.

 

Did have the pledge at an LE fundraiser 3-gun, opening of the county fair, and official county meetings. Some others places.

16 hours ago, Hendo said:

I was proud to recite the pledge of allegiance with true American Patriots at my very first match and have been at every match since.

 

I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I don't know the California pledge, but I think it's in Russian now anyway. So there's that...

I'm proud too, but I seriously blew it at my first SASS match. I don't normally wear a hat, so I did not take mine off. Red faced afterwards when I realized I had not shown proper respect, but nobody called me on it. Won't make that mistake again, I promise!

 

As to the California pledge, lived there for far too long and did not know the state had one. Good thing as I considered myself a resident there. While living (residing) there, I chose to become a US citizen; that is where I pledged allegiance.

 

And when wearing a hat, I will remember to take it off in the future.

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17 hours ago, Hendo said:

I was proud to recite the pledge of allegiance with true American Patriots at my very first match and have been at every match since.

 

I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I don't know the California pledge, but I think it's in Russian now anyway. So there's that...

Anyone else see three copies of this post above? There was one. Some hours later there were two.  And just now, a third one showed up. I'm sure there were only two until I posted just now, and the stranger thing is...

 

The first two were 17 hours ago, and the third is 18 hours ago. How can the third one be older than the first two?

 

Reporting as possible technical issue, but curious if I am the only member seeing the duplicates.

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John, I'm only seeing a single post from Hendo.  Maybe your computer has a stutter?

 

Until I saw it (I think in the Texas State Rifle Association magazine but not sure), I did not know Texas had a pledge, either.  More than one club has written the pledge in large letters on a sign for folks that don't know it, but over time most have learned it.

 

For the USA pledge, service veterans leave their hats on and salute.  

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12 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:

Anyone else see three copies of this post above? There was one. Some hours later there were two.  And just now, a third one showed up. I'm sure there were only two until I posted just now, and the stranger thing is...

 

The first two were 17 hours ago, and the third is 18 hours ago. How can the third one be older than the first two?

 

Reporting as possible technical issue, but curious if I am the only member seeing the duplicates.

 

I'm only seeing the one post.

 

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10 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:

I compete a lot, mostly just the SASS matches have the pledge.

 

Did have the pledge at an LE fundraiser 3-gun, opening of the county fair, and official county meetings. Some others places.

I'm proud too, but I seriously blew it at my first SASS match. I don't normally wear a hat, so I did not take mine off. Red faced afterwards when I realized I had not shown proper respect, but nobody called me on it. Won't make that mistake again, I promise!

 

As to the California pledge, lived there for far too long and did not know the state had one. Good thing as I considered myself a resident there. While living (residing) there, I chose to become a US citizen; that is where I pledged allegiance.

 

And when wearing a hat, I will remember to take it off in the future.

I'm in California but shoot in Oregon, Nevada and Arizona. The only exceptions to reciting the pledge I've seen is at matches that have the shooters all start at their first stage instead of first gathering at a central point or the clubhouse where the flagpole is located. Usually this is at the second day at bigger matches although some clubs do this at monthlies. Can't vouch for other parts of the country though. The two local clubs I shoot at in northern Ca. do it at every match.

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5 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

John, I'm only seeing a single post from Hendo. 

 

5 minutes ago, Eliphalet R. Moderator said:

I'm only seeing the one post.

Now I'm only seeing one. Weird. I'll grab a screen shot next time. But it seems to have healed itself. I was prepared to log out and clear cookies, but did not do so.

 

On edit: Moderators, please feel free to clean up the posts related to this, they do not add to the thread.

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17 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:


Now I'm only seeing one. Weird.

Probably just needed that extra hour today to clear the mind. :D

 

I'm a vet, but will sometimes remove my hat and put it over my heart for the pledge. Most of the time it's a salute. The main point being that you show due respect. 

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every ATA trap shoot has started with the star spangled banner , every 3-gun shoot has as well , growing up school started with the pledge and a prayer , every scout meeting , almost every event ...........till the american sports and movie industries return to a bit of respect ill be ignoring them , 

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Interesting - pledging to multiple entities might well be impossible.   If I lived in California or say NY,  I don't believe I could say a pledge to those entities and that unfortunately may also be the case with Arizona some day.  :(

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I seem to recall a civics teacher saying that in order for a meeting to be considered a peaceable assembly as allowed by 1st amendment, the pledge should be recited. That may have been her opinion, not sure that it is the law, but I remember talking about it.  Not that there is typically a lot is sedition talk at a SASS match. (I suppose that could change next week!) 

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I don't say the pledge.  Not that I don't revere the sentiments, but I am Southern to my marrow and it was the loyalty oath that my great grandfather was required to take at Appomattox.  I will stand, hand over heart for it, though.

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22 hours ago, MizPete said:

I don't say the pledge.  Not that I don't revere the sentiments, but I am Southern to my marrow and it was the loyalty oath that my great grandfather was required to take at Appomattox.  I will stand, hand over heart for it, though.

 

i get your sentiments but my family got over it after fighting in arkansas for the south , we moved north -- and im about as far north as i expect to get , i may move back south soon , old age does that [and so does minnesota taxes] ive got both the stars and stripes and stars and bars in my home and look at both as american , worthy of respect and reverence part of being an american  , my country divided or united , i like it as founded 

 

ive wondered for decades what was happening to the patriotism of this country - im still wondering , in my youth we had gotten over the civil war , we were a rising american society , socialism was they enemy - it still is in my mind and always will be , 

i still stand for the flag proudly , kneel for the cross humbly , respect my elders and our military and law enforcement - they preserve what we get to live each day , 

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I'm going to be the outlier here. I stand but no longer recite the pledge. This is a religious conviction for me. My only pledge of allegiance is to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. 

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buzzard , we have known each other long enough that i can respect your choice on the premise you presented , you stand and respect our country - ill allow that there is a bit of religion injected in our founding as they were deeply religious type folks back then , and no we dont want to mistake patriotism and allegiance to our country for reverence and devotion to our God [and in keeping with today - whatever deity you believe in] you obviously think of yourself as a Christian as do i , 

 

o can however pledge my allegiance to the flag and country because it was founded UNDER GOD , meaning God comes first - the country second in my understanding of the pledge , 

 

hope to see you next year at enderlin or wows or elsewhere and we can share our views further , take care my friend 

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