Tyrel Cody 2,574 Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: If you wrote SASS HQ and applied for a State or Regional Match and said you weren't going to use the LTO/UTO , what do you think there answer would be.... I"ve been to a lot of matches where we had small posses, the person in front or behind you became the observer.... Their No doubt they'd advise me to provide both an LTO and ULTO; regardless, it isn't listed as required in any manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 341 Posted March 20 Mean, clean and under 2 minutes........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 842 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: If you wrote SASS HQ and applied for a State or Regional Match and said you weren't going to use the LTO/UTO , what do you think there answer would be.... I"ve been to a lot of matches where we had small posses, the person in front or behind you became the observer.... apparently yu may not shoot much out west,,,, but no more naysaying about the lto,,, It was totally completely without a doubt, MY fault! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 39 Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: apparently yu may not shoot much out west,,,, but no more naysaying about the lto,,, It was totally completely without a doubt, MY fault! Cheyenne, I've shot from all round the Central Plains to the East Coast to as Far West as Fernley, NV, and from North Dakota to Texas. Yes it was your fault, your a stand up shooter for acknowledging it, but by simply using the procedures that are written, it would have avoid this.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 842 Posted March 20 there was a LTO, I distracted him!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wyatt 180 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: If you wrote SASS HQ and applied for a State or Regional Match and said you weren't going to use the LTO/UTO , what do you think there answer would be.... I"ve been to a lot of matches where we had small posses, the person in front or behind you became the observer.... Don’t forget that at State and Regional matches the LTO/UTO, along with the spotters and score keeper, are also “supposed” to be RO 1/2’s PS: The Ides of March is an Annual shoot with 150 shooters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrel Cody 2,574 Posted March 20 {joking} See what you've started Cheyenne, next time just load your guns before the buzzer goes off. {/joking} Kudos to you for remaining calm under pressure and setting a good example for the rest of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Hombre Sin Nombre 1,182 Posted March 20 2 hours ago, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: If you wrote SASS HQ and applied for a State or Regional Match and said you weren't going to use the LTO/UTO , what do you think there answer would be.... I"ve been to a lot of matches where we had small posses, the person in front or behind you became the observer.... California state match didn’t have one. Maybe that one is too small? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 3,575 Posted March 20 32 minutes ago, Redwood Kid said: California state match didn’t have one. Maybe that one is too small? Yep, very few venues out here have a LTO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marauder SASS #13056 579 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: there was a LTO, I distracted him!! See above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 39 Posted March 20 Last comment on this, all of you that don't use LTO/UTO officers, go tell you insurance companies and tell them that you are are following safety rules and procedures, and see how long your still insured.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Hombre Sin Nombre 1,182 Posted March 20 5 hours ago, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: Last comment on this, all of you that don't use LTO/UTO officers, go tell you insurance companies and tell them that you are are following safety rules and procedures, and see how long your still insured.... These clubs have been playing this game a lot longer than you have, so I think they'll be fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 341 Posted March 20 You know, CC posts a lighthearted video of his own screw up on here and it turns into a pissing match about LTO's...... The shooter took full blame for the screw up.......and the blame somehow lies elsewhere? It's a damn shame that some folks can't see the humor. Anyway, thanks CC for the post. Sun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lead Monger 311 Posted March 21 CC. I very much enjoyed your video and congradulate you for the way you pulled it off. I would have at least forgot the string. This is suposed to be fun. Ye-Ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBFields 31 Posted March 21 On 3/19/2019 at 1:16 PM, Sixgun Seamus said: Nice smooth shotgun run. There we go, positive reinforcement! Always a silver lining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 1,810 Posted March 23 PLUS ONE to Cypress Sun. or even PLUS TWO to Cypress Sun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major BS Walker Regulator 323 Posted March 23 On 3/20/2019 at 9:24 AM, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: there was a LTO, I distracted him!! I'm assuming with your good looks and charm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 3,367 Posted March 23 On 3/20/2019 at 6:22 AM, WymoreWrangler SASS 46187 said: Cheyenne, I've shot from all round the Central Plains to the East Coast to as Far West as Fernley, NV, and from North Dakota to Texas. Yes it was your fault, your a stand up shooter for acknowledging it, but by simply using the procedures that are written, it would have avoid this.... Hey Cheyenne, The video seems to be missing now. Sorry for the side track; but someone else started it. Wymore, I've been shooting out west for close to 20 years (May is the milestone) and rarely see a LTO. I once received a SDQ for having my rifle hammer back. There was a LTO! She felt bad; but, I admitted the fault was mine. I am a firm believer in a ULTO, because after that point no one expects a gun to be loaded. It can be very dangerous if it is. Even on a short posse, it can be handled by the previous shooter. In fact, I recommend, in that situation, that the ULTO act as the scorekeeper. By the time the shooter is cleared and the score entered, brass will be picked. While we are on that topic, one of my pet peeves is inattentive ULTOs. They should be watching as the shooter leaves the line to insure they do not go to their cart with loaded guns. Luckily, I was caught before I did that once. Now, I no longer park my cart on the way from the end of the firing line to the ULT. Regards, Allie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 842 Posted March 24 Allie, it's still there for me,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 4,747 Posted March 24 Hey crash-I can still see the vid in CC's first post. Haven't seen a LTO out here in many years.........Don't need'em either. UTO-Oh, heck ya you need them CC distracted his LTO because he forgot to pull his pants back up, and the poor guy was laughing so hard he was gasp'n for air....... OLG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 842 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Hey crash-I can still see the vid in CC's first post. Haven't seen a LTO out here in many years.........Don't need'em either. UTO-Oh, heck ya you need them CC distracted his LTO because he forgot to pull his pants back up, and the poor guy was laughing so hard he was gasp'n for air....... OLG well he was gasping for air!! CPD and had just gotten out of the hospital,,, he felt terrible about it too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
