Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I am designing and planning to use PVC pipe to build practice targets for my personal use. The design phase is complete; however, I realized I could not find where the SASS approved guidelines for target size are stated, in order for me to replicate same. Do such guidelines exist, or is it up to each club to make that determination? I searched the SASS Wire forum and did find a thread that was started regarding the size of targets for long range side matches, and the responses seem to indicate there were no guidelines, at least, for long range side matches. My curiosity was then raised as I began to think about those shooters who go to another club to shoot, and whether those targets are the same size from club to club. If I can be pointed in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If you are looking for SASS guidelines have you tried the rule book? Metal and paper targets of generous size are used. Reactive targets such as pepper poppers and falling plates are used when practical to enhance shooter feedback and spectator appeal. Targets are set at close to medium range. There are no absolute rules, but we suggest the following distances, by firearm, if using a target approximately 16" X 16": Revolver – 7 to 10 yards Shotgun – 8 to 16 yards Rifle – 13 to 50 yards That's all there is. Target size and distances are determined by the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Post some pix of those stands if you'd be so kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just a point from experience. PVC stands will NOT hold up to direct hits. ( I know, you will never hit the stands...on purpose) PVC stands will be damaged from plate hit bullet splatter. Cold rolled rod or rebar for stands are cheaper in long run and will last for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just a point from experience. PVC stands will NOT hold up to direct hits. ( I know, you will never hit the stands...on purpose) PVC stands will be damaged from plate hit bullet splatter. Cold rolled rod or rebar for stands are cheaper in long run and will last for ever. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 What the bullets don't do to the PVC. The Sun's UV will. OLG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Mr. Pettifogger: Thank you for the direction on where to find the information regarding target size. As a matter of fact, I did quickly look through the Shooters Handbook; however, when I didn't see a heading on the INDEX page that appeared would cover the issue, such as "Target standards" or "Equipment guidelines", I assumed the information would appear in another SASS Publication. Did not consider looking at "Range Operations". Appreciate the guidance. Now I can proceed with construction. Edited January 12, 2017 by Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Mr. Horg: Once I have the first target constructed, I will post pictures of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Misters Hanger, Riot & Gritz: My plan is to build these units using paper targets. (40#- 60# kraft paper) I have a design that is intended to incorporate a target easily into the stand, but we'll see once completed. My intent also is to paint the PVC (color to be determined later) to eliminate the distraction of the color white and to provide protection from the sun. I do understand that if they get hit, they will shatter; however, the section that gets hit can easily be replaced as the pieces will not be glued together. In addition, I plan to only build one at first to see (1) if it works as a viable target stand, (2) the amount of time and ease it will take to replace a broken section, and (3) obviously if I am hitting it too often, I will need to move on to a more durable product. It should help also that I will only be aiming at one target for starters, where with multiple targets and moving back and forth between them, I would expect, in the beginning, to be missing the target and damaging the target stand. Regardless of my ramblings, all of your input is, of course, greatly appreciated. As a note, once built and tested on the range, I will post the results: " The GOOD, the BAD and the UGLY". I will accompany them with pictures. All of this is part of my documented journey into the realm of Cowboy Action Shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack SASS#87384 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Take this for what it's worth and yes, any practice is better than no practice but paper targets will not allow you to practice at the speed you will run on steel. Your mind will react faster and you will shoot faster shooting at a steel target than you will at a paper one. The sound of the steel ringing will actually speed you up. Edited January 12, 2017 by Smokestack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Mr. Smokestack: Point well taken. My initial goal is to practice (1) with the least amount of cost, and (2) get a visual idea of where I am aiming and hitting. Edited January 12, 2017 by Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Mr. Smokestack: Point well taken. My initial goal is to practice (1) with the least amount of cost, and (2) get a visual idea of where I am aiming and hitting. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Take this for what it's worth and yes, any practice is better than no practice but paper targets will not allow you to practice at the speed you will run on steel. Your mind will react faster and you will shoot faster shooting at a steel target than you will at a paper one. The sound of the steel ringing will actually speed you up. +1 without the ding I think I'm not hitting and slow down. I like to practice sometimes on smaller targets than I normally see at matches. Sometimes big targets and just go for speed. Good luck Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Amazon has some 1/4" 12x12 steel plates that would work for light target/practice. $30 and free shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I have made several target stands using PVC and they work fine. I use threaded connectors so they come apart for hauling. I also put threaded ends on the bottoms so the two are filled with sand for weight and stability. We also use them to sight-in rifles and shotguns. I have used these for the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ain't nothing like attending a match, even local monthly matches to gauge your speed and skill; AND, give you a better idea of what SASS targets will generally look like. Paper targets are fine and all for sighting in, making sure your shotgun patterns well where you're aiming, but nothing, and I mean nothing will give you the feedback like steel. A timer will only give you information as to how fast you're shooting... and again, nothing, but nothing will give you a better gauge on what can be accomplished like actual match conditions... Where you can see how fast your fellow shooters are actually running. good set of shooting pards can watch you, know what they're looking for, and give you instant feedback on where you can build speed and technique refinement. Good luck with your endeavors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Wood is so much cheaper than PVC. I make stands with a 2x4 base, uprights of furring strips, and target support boards cut from old thin plywood. Last for at least 5 years and very light weight (except for base). The uprights will take a few hits without being destroyed, too. Goodluck, GJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I made some PVC target bases for traveling to friends homes to shoot. We are NRA bullseye shooters so seldom make holes in the PVC. I am not sure what would happen with newbie shooters and shotgun practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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