Clemsum Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I have SS Vaqueros and have been painting the front sight face I see when shooting Gold but it gets dull quickly. I have been thinking of adding a Brass Strip to the sight and have gotten as far as cutting the material but have been having a problem finding a glue that will bond quickly. Any suggestions?? Clemsum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I've used Super Glue GEL.. but mine was a slip over brass sight.. Rance Thinkin' JB Weld didn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge'm All Duncan, SASS#67320 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Slicks magic sites. Never worry about it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 J-B Weld. Altho I use a copper, not brass, strip over the front site. CBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady McLarry #62056L Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 http://www.loctiteproducts.com/product_advisor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 If you can solder, solder would put it on to stay. The Locktite adhesive line of epoxies will work, as will JB-Weld epoxy. In Locktite line, Epoxy Weld™ Bonding Compound Brownells and customers are real impressed with the Loctite Black Max super glue. So much so, that their stock is back-ordered. Supposed to be real quick and excellent for small metal sight part attachment. http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/thread-locking-liquids/black-max-adhesive-prod6139.aspx?avs|Manufacturer_1=LOCTITE Might find it at Midway or bigger auto parts stores (NAPA, for example). Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 http://www.slickmagicguns.com/SureHitSights.html Am sure your strip with work good. But the above seems to hold better. Has bigger area for the glue to adhere. Even comes with the glue. You might check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 If you can solder, solder would put it on to stay. Good luck, GJ Lead solder will not bond to steel. Silver solder requires much higher temp that may well damage the Ruger solder used to hold the front sight in place. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Lead solder will not bond to steel. Silver solder requires much higher temp that may well damage the Ruger solder used to hold the front sight in place. OLG Awful lot of old hot rods running around with leaded body work. Needs a lot of tin, but still used by some today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Awful lot of old hot rods running around with leaded body work. Needs a lot of tin, but still used by some today. You are 110% correct about that. That is how I learned to do body work. Body metal is not the high chrome content that most gun barrels are. Most body metal has a high tin content that is required for the forming/stamping process. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Gotcha - the tin in the body panels helps the solder stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Lead solder will not bond to steel. Brownells has sold (and I have applied) a fair amount of HiForce 44 soft solder to steel, including stainless. Yes, it can be made to work with the right technique and right flux to clean the steel. How else do double barreled shotguns get made from a monoblock, two tubes and two ribs, all of steel? Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 How else do double barreled shotguns get made from a monoblock, two tubes and two ribs, all of steel? Good luck, GJ By the skillz of master craftsman along with the jigs & tooling needed to do the job- OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.T Chambers, SASS#76185 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 PM sent MTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsum Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thanks to everyone for the replies ! I think I will be checking the Loctite Gel. I tried JB Weld but could not keep the parts clamped together long enough for it to set up properly. I have looked at the front sight covers from Slick but my front sight almost fills up the rear site as it is and I don't want to try to open the rear sight. I am planning to order one of his sights for the Rifle. Mostly I like to make things work myself. Thanks again for the replies. Clemsum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Lead solder will not bond to steel. Silver solder requires much higher temp that may well damage the Ruger solder used to hold the front sight in place. OLG Brownells has sold (and I have applied) a fair amount of HiForce 44 soft solder to steel, including stainless. Yes, it can be made to work with the right technique and right flux to clean the steel. How else do double barreled shotguns get made from a monoblock, two tubes and two ribs, all of steel? Good luck, GJ +1 Works great on stainless or blued. I use it all the time to replace sights that get lost on SAA and Vaq's. It will actually take cold blue (not needed for SS) and you won't scale/burn the bore at the low temp needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Black max from loctite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo, # 29989 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Just searched the Loctite site and no mention of black max at all. Even the search doesn't recognise it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Just searched the Loctite site and no mention of black max at all. Even the search doesn't recognize it? AKA Loctite 380 Instant Adhesive It's a specialty product - not enough sales to justify putting on the web site, I suppose. Just go to the Brownells site I posted earlier in this thread and you can find out about it. Here's the URL again. http://www.brownells...turer_1=LOCTITE Or Amazon's listing: http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-135423-Toughened-Instant-Adhesive/dp/B000132VEE And here's the product page from Henkel North America (owns Loctite): http://www.henkelna.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797890609153 Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick McClade Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 What ever you decide to use , rough up the smooth surface before applying any type of adhesive. If you don't, the odds are good that it will not hold for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairshake Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I don't under stand why you are having a problem with JB WELD, that stuff has never failed to work on any project that I chose to use it on. Small clamps meant for model making, rubber bands, plastic tie strips, pressure clamps are just a few things that would work to hold a brass strip on the front sight. You may want to file the stock site down to a height that gives you a flat surface to work with. As has been posted, you may want to look at Slick McCade's new sights that are sold at several outlets. Check out his sight, he is a great person to work with. Later Fairshake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Bill, SASS #4942 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The mix has to be perfect, then it will hold just about anything and last. I have some that is over 3 years in use and has not failed. When poorly mixed, I did have trouble. And, you can file it to shape and color it as desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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