Wolfgang, SASS #53480 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lets save a little money . . . . keep flying thru the war zone . . . . . it'll probably be Ok . . . . . . Huh . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Don't blame the people who bought a ticket, someone else made that decision. Lafitte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 George W. Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We've always done it that way and never had a problem!! Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Nelson Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We've always done it that way and never had a problem!! It's company policy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 There is a certain culture of taking things literally. No-fly below 32000 is just believed. 32001 is safe. Hot wars were so long ago that collateral damage is an after-thought, Some folks need a wake-up call. (Who am I to talk? I have gone to Ukraine recently and will go again.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 According to the talking heads someone determined that this is a recognized path of travel for commercial flights. They rattled off a number of airlines and number off flights that occur using this route each month. Seems to me if I was going to shoot down a commercial airline to make some sort of point I would choose a country that has no military capability to retaliate???? As in Malaysia. Shoot down a Russian or Chinese plane and watch what happens. Just spouting opinions high atop Mount No Where. And Utah Bob, not a Colorado type of high. Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lots of war zones around the world are overflown by comercial flights daily. The blame lies solely with the Ukranian rebels and their Russian arms suppliers/trainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lots of war zones around the world are overflown by comercial flights daily. The blame lies solely with the Ukranian rebels and their Russian arms suppliers/trainers. +1 The souls that perished due to their actions were innocent victims in the truest sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 it takes over a year to learn to shoot a SA-11 or related SAM's. I wonder if the Russian-speaking insurgents in Ukraine make a mistake and address the Spetznatz officers as "sir"??!! The original Count Dracula was really called "Vlad the Impaler". Wonder if that makes you-know-who Vlad the Second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 it takes over a year to learn to shoot a SA-11 or related SAM's. It takes that long to understand how to use one properly, coordinate with other assets in a battlefield, operate the IFF, and other activities associated with a professional army. In a week you can teach someone to drive it somewhere, energize the system, turn on the radar, and press "FIRE". This is what happens when somebody gives big boy weapons to little boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lots of war zones around the world are overflown by comercial flights daily. The blame lies solely with the Ukranian rebels and their Russian arms suppliers/trainers. 100% GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 it takes over a year to learn to shoot a SA-11 or related SAM's. It takes that long to understand how to use one properly, coordinate with other assets in a battlefield, operate the IFF, and other activities associated with a professional army. In a week you can teach someone to drive it somewhere, energize the system, turn on the radar, and press "FIRE". This is what happens when somebody gives big boy weapons to little boys. Exactly. Push button to turn on. Push button to search. Push button to lock on. Push button to fire. That was probably about the extent of their training. "Hey Uri, you have a computer at your farm. You're promoted to missle specialist. This calls for a drink" Recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 George W. Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Lots of war zones around the world are overflown by comercial flights daily. The blame lies solely with the Ukranian rebels and their Russian arms suppliers/trainers. Absolutely. without question. The shortest distance equals the least fuel consumption. This was a globally recognized flight route. I don't think the pilots, crew or passengers had any second thoughts about flying over the Ukraine. I also think that Malasian Airlines thought that this was a safe route also...........after all, losing one 777 under mysterious circumstances had damn near shut them down. To fly into a possible area where a shoot down is possible is business suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 10 flights from Ukraine westward were canceled yesterday. I bet Simferopol and Sevastopol (both Crimean and Russian) to Sochi were already going around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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