bgavin Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 At the range today, I had one of those !@#$% Remington Golden Bullets jam in my Henry. It bent the bullet 90 degrees in the case, so I had to disassemble to remove it. Being my first time, I took a look over on YouTube for a HowTo video. This worked great. Jam is removed, gun is oiled and cleaned, and works again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnEVc94-RQ 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 53 minutes ago, bgavin said: At the range today, I had one of those !@#$% Remington Golden Bullets jam in my Henry. It bent the bullet 90 degrees in the case, so I had to disassemble to remove it. Being my first time, I took a look over on YouTube for a HowTo video. This worked great. Jam is removed, gun is oiled and cleaned, and works again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnEVc94-RQ I had one of those jams and luckily someone out on the range ( we were at Rimfire Challenge shoot) had done it before. It wasn’t as bad as I thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 16 Author Share Posted October 16 The YouTube shows the tricks used by the smith to get the receiver back in place properly. In retrospect, it makes perfect sense. As a first time noob, I figured best to watch a YouTube demo to see how it done. I needed the proper big blade screw driver to pull the stock, then the receiver cover bolts. Cleaned out the junk and removed the junk from the destroyed cartridge. Did a clean and lube and it works after being reassembled. Remington Golden Bullets are junk compared to the old stuff I was shooting. Some of the boxes of 50 had price tags of $0.50 from Longs Drugs. Those shot flawlessly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Youtube is my University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 (edited) My Henry has ALL the bells and whistle modifications I can think of (Widder Soft Stroke). BUT, there are still some of those odd ball bullets that sneak in that are kinda crooked and indeed, they manage to jam with that 'bent bullet' gremlin. Its often more of an issue with the ammo than the mechanics of the rifle...... even factory stock rifles. I have 2 videos concerning certain modifications on the Henry .22 I'll see if they are still on YouTube and post them here. ..........Widder Edited October 17 by Widder, SASS #59054 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 12 hours ago, bgavin said: At the range today, I had one of those !@#$% Remington Golden Bullets jam in my Henry. It bent the bullet 90 degrees in the case, so I had to disassemble to remove it. Being my first time, I took a look over on YouTube for a HowTo video. This worked great. Jam is removed, gun is oiled and cleaned, and works again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnEVc94-RQ You know how to prevent that from happening again? Stop shooting junk ammo ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I got my first Henry rimfire recently as a gift. It’s a Frontier octagon .22 magnum. Thanks for posting that video @bgavin and Thank You @Widder, SASS #59054for your expertise and videos. ——————————————————- That disassembly procedure has me wondering. I plan to put a rimfire scope on my Henry. When Removing that Receiver Cover I am wondering how my “return to zero” might be affected? Anyone scope a Henry rimfire? Did your scope return to zero after reassembly? I guess the same could be asked about peep sights mounted on the receiver cover. —————————————————- 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Hey PAT, do you know what an 'expert'. (X-Spert) is? A drip under pressure........... hehehehehehehehehehehehehe! ..........Widder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 3 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: You know how to prevent that from happening again? Stop shooting junk ammo ! And farming is easy work when one plows with a keyboard. I bought what was available at the time (Big 5). Silly me, thinking the major name brand was junk. Apparently the bent bullet is a real "thing". I will shoot the Goldens in revolvers and shoot my new old stock in the Henry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Remington 22s are the only brand I've had consistent issues of sort or another with. They would keyhole in my Model 60. In general,Federal have given me the best accuracy and reliability. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 2 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: Remington 22s are the only brand I've had consistent issues of sort or another with. They would keyhole in my Model 60. In general,Federal have given me the best accuracy and reliability. Try CCI mini-mag 40gn solid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Federal Auto Match works surprisingly well in all .22s and it’s consistently accurate. In my revolvers, my CP33, my 10/22 and my CZ bolt gun. I need a Henry .22 LR,L&S now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 2 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Federal Auto Match works surprisingly well in all .22s and it’s consistently accurate. In my revolvers, my CP33, my 10/22 and my CZ bolt gun. I need a Henry .22 LR,L&S now. When you get your Henry,ship it off to Widder's buddy Slater for the Widder Softstroke and trigger job. Makes it way fun!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 ive got one - never tried to take it apart , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 I never had that problem with my Winchester 9422 and CCI Minimags. The rifle is long gone, but I still swear by Minimags. I'd buy anothe 9422 if they were affordable. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 15 posts! I was wondering how long it would before someone mentioned the venerable Winchester 9422 and / or the Marlin 39A. Mentioning Henry rimfires on a forum is like mentioning Glocks. Shortly after the posting there will be a comment about the venerable 9422 or 39A with Henry’s and the 1911 when mentioning Glocks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 47 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: 15 posts! I was wondering how long it would before someone mentioned the venerable Winchester 9422 and / or the Marlin 39A. Mentioning Henry rimfires on a forum is like mentioning Glocks. Shortly after the posting there will be a comment about the venerable 9422 or 39A with Henry’s and the 1911 when mentioning Glocks. But, but....even Mimimags won't run in my WW1 1911! What's wrong with them? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) I own ALL 3: Henry, 9422 and 39A. In past years, I also owned the 9422M (magnum) and 39M (Mountie). Of the 3, the 9422 is the simplest to take apart, clean, and if needed, smooth up any burrs...... except of the 1/2 dozen I've owned, I've never encountered any burrs, including the couple I had in 9422M. I think its the Cadillac of .22 lever rifles. The Marlin 39 is a little different. Its a solid rifle. Not hard to work on, but its got a couple peculiarities. The nature of its parts tends to make it stiffer than the other .22's mentioned. The Henry is fairly simple. Its design SHOULD give 100% feeding reliability, but sometimes, the manufactured parts don't move as smooth as they should and therefore, a good tuning can usually slick one up quite nicely and run fast. The carrier is the main part to enhance reliability and smoothness. Its a fixed part (it don't move) but the lifter spring and the lifter can hinder smoothness AND..... the feeding channel in the carrier can also have tolerance issues that hinder the bullet from lifting in a timely manner. And believe it or not, the tolerances can be perfect for 90% of the ammo we shoot, but there are those occasions where an odd piece of .22 ammo don't like to move smoothly inside the carrier. Personally, I've probably run over 5000 rounds thru my Henry and the aluminum parts aren't showing any wear or deterioration. Henry SHOULD include some sort of 'lever stop' in their design for the main reason I stated in my video. But otherwise, its a well made rifle that has earned a fairly good reputation. FORTY ROD: You've seen what we've all seen...... big price tag on the 9422. Right now, a LNIB or even a good, clean model (with or without box) can run $800 and up. Probably closer to $1000. I've thought about taking the plunge and getting one of the 9422 'Trapper' models, even if I have to shell out 1K. But I ain't ready for that yet. ..........Widder Edited October 18 by Widder, SASS #59054 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 3 hours ago, Pat Riot said: 15 posts! I was wondering how long it would before someone mentioned the venerable Winchester 9422 and / or the Marlin 39A. Mentioning Henry rimfires on a forum is like mentioning Glocks. Shortly after the posting there will be a comment about the venerable 9422 or 39A with Henry’s and the 1911 when mentioning Glocks. I'll never apologize for my love for the 9422. Sorry, Pat, but there is simply no comparison. I will admit that the Henry has a better, slicker, smoother action, but not so much better that I'd buy one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: I'll never apologize for my love for the 9422. Sorry, Pat, but there is simply no comparison. I will admit that the Henry has a better, slicker, smoother action, but not so much better that I'd buy one. Just busting’ your chops, Pard This forum is tame in this regard. Another forum I frequent has some rabid 9422 & 39A fans. They just can’t help themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 4 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Right now, a LNIB or even a good, clean model (with or without box) can run $800 and up. Probably closer to $1000. I encountered a 9422 a few months ago the guy wanted $1400 for it. I just looked at him and smiled as I walked away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 5 hours ago, DeaconKC said: But, but....even Mimimags won't run in my WW1 1911! What's wrong with them? You have to load the pointy end down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 39 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Just busting’ your chops, Pard This forum is tame in this regard. Another forum I frequent has some rabid 9422 & 39A fans. They just can’t help themselves. Busting my chops? Man, you're good. I never felt a thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Thanks for the video. I never realized that Henry ripped off Iver Johnson! I have that exact same rifle, branded Iver Johnson that I got in 1986. My first real gun. Still incredibly accurate and fun to shoot. I'd love to give Henry more grief for ripping off Iver Johnson, but that model belonged to Erma before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” Whoever said this did not work in the U.S. Patent office… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 19 Author Share Posted October 19 For me, the buy-in price is long forgotten for any high quality item I purchase. For example, I bought a Dan Wesson PM7 instead of a lesser priced 45 ACP, and I'm perfectly happy with the PM7. It is a wonderful shooter, a perfect fit in my hand, and exudes "quality." I inherited a Mercury 22 pistol from my Dad, that is literally nothing but problems. It lives in my safe solely as a paper weight, because it is SO unreliable to shoot. So much so, that I don't give a hoot about figuring out what ammo it might like. I just plain hate that cheap piece of merde. The memory of problematic "bargain" products lingers FAR longer than the high price of a top quality product. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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