WOODFOX , sass#34179 Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 I have been using clays for 7/8 's shotgun loads since it's not available what is a good replacement ? I have been using 13.2 gr. and like the low recoil . Thanks Woodfox
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 Many powders will work for the light loads we shoot in cowboy matches. 700-X,, WST, TiteWad, TiteGroup (High Over All Gun is another name for the exact same powder) are some of the common ones that are in moderate production and often available. ExtraLlite, Red Dot, Unique, Green Dot, Clay Dot, American Select, are occasionally made and on the market now, but you have to get very luck to find them. good luck, GJ
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 Like G.J. said, many are useable, some hard to find and/or pricey. I haven't used Hodgdon Perfect Pattern, but it is getting good reviews for this and is one of the cheaper ones out there. Here's one thread:
Kid Rich Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 49 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Many powders will work for the light loads we shoot in cowboy matches. 700-X,, WST, TiteWad, TiteGroup (High Over All is another name for the exact same powder) are some of the common ones that are in moderate production and often available. ExtraLlite, Red Dot, Unique, Green Dot, Clay Dot, American Select, are occasionally made and on the market now, but you have to get very luck to find them. good luck, GJ High Gun is the duplicate powder for Titegroup. kR
Silver Creek Jack Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 I have been using Perfect Pattern and I think it’s the cleanest shotgun powder I have ever used. I load 12.5 grains behind 1 oz of 7 1/2 shot in STS hulls, very lite recoil and knocks down shotgun targets easily when I hit ‘em!
Choctaw Jack Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 I started with Clay's, went to International, Clay Dot, Red Dot, and now use Promo ( same powder as Red Dot) . All were very similar. Didn't even change my bushing size for the last 3. Red Dot and Promo seem to be a little dirtier, but no problem shooting 2 matches without cleaning. I do swab my chambers between stages, though. Of course YMMV. Choctaw
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Silver Creek Jack said: I have been using Perfect Pattern and I think it’s the cleanest shotgun powder I have ever used. I load 12.5 grains behind 1 oz of 7 1/2 shot in STS hulls, very lite recoil and knocks down shotgun targets easily when I hit ‘em! I will switch to Perfect Pattern when I use up my supply of Extra-Lite. I tried a pound and got good results. PP is a dense powder and would require a different powder bushing and press settings than you use for Clays.
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 I use Red Dot for pistol, rifle and SG loads. Promo is similar to Red Dot. For SG loads I use 10.5gr RD and 1 oz of #8 shot in STS hulls. Works good for me when shooting smokeless.
oak creek martin Posted September 5, 2024 Posted September 5, 2024 Take a look at the clean shot powder from shooters world. It’s been working great for 12 gauge low recoil and pistol caliber rounds. you can always find it at Bullets By Scarlet, she also has low data for that powder used and tested by many SASS shooters. Scheels is another good supplier on the shelf at a lot of stores.
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 I'm using Perfect Pattern and I'm very happy with it. I did have to change components to get the column height and a good crimp. I'm using 9.5gr which takes a #12 MEC bushing in my 650. I have used it with good results on 7/8, 1 and 1 1/8oz loads. I drop down one wad size, 3/4 wad for 7/8 load, 7/8 wad for 1oz load etc. Randy
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 PP does seem to be pretty easy to get, as are most Hodgdon-labeled powders. Right now it is $267.89 for an 8 pounder at Natchez with free Hazmat through tomorrow, code fh240905
The Surgeon Posted September 6, 2024 Posted September 6, 2024 Titewad/accurate Nitro 100NF are also great for lower power loads and are usually available. they are not as dense as pp. I load 3/4 oz and from my research i would have to use a filler to get a good crimp using PP. using a 3/4oz wad and 7/8 load may solve that issue but shot is more expensive than powder.
Three Gun Cole Posted September 7, 2024 Posted September 7, 2024 American select with 1-1/8 oz and mec # 26 is a great cowboy load sts hulls, clay buster white AA wad
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