WOODFOX , sass#34179 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) I have been using clays for 7/8 's shotgun loads since it's not available what is a good replacement ? I have been using 13.2 gr. and like the low recoil . Thanks Woodfox Edited September 5 by WOODFOX , sass#34179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) Many powders will work for the light loads we shoot in cowboy matches. 700-X,, WST, TiteWad, TiteGroup (High Over All Gun is another name for the exact same powder) are some of the common ones that are in moderate production and often available. ExtraLlite, Red Dot, Unique, Green Dot, Clay Dot, American Select, are occasionally made and on the market now, but you have to get very luck to find them. good luck, GJ Edited September 7 by Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 correct a powder name because of very similar names for shell and powder) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Like G.J. said, many are useable, some hard to find and/or pricey. I haven't used Hodgdon Perfect Pattern, but it is getting good reviews for this and is one of the cheaper ones out there. Here's one thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 49 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Many powders will work for the light loads we shoot in cowboy matches. 700-X,, WST, TiteWad, TiteGroup (High Over All is another name for the exact same powder) are some of the common ones that are in moderate production and often available. ExtraLlite, Red Dot, Unique, Green Dot, Clay Dot, American Select, are occasionally made and on the market now, but you have to get very luck to find them. good luck, GJ High Gun is the duplicate powder for Titegroup. kR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I have been using Perfect Pattern and I think it’s the cleanest shotgun powder I have ever used. I load 12.5 grains behind 1 oz of 7 1/2 shot in STS hulls, very lite recoil and knocks down shotgun targets easily when I hit ‘em! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choctaw Jack Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I started with Clay's, went to International, Clay Dot, Red Dot, and now use Promo ( same powder as Red Dot) . All were very similar. Didn't even change my bushing size for the last 3. Red Dot and Promo seem to be a little dirtier, but no problem shooting 2 matches without cleaning. I do swab my chambers between stages, though. Of course YMMV. Choctaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Silver Creek Jack said: I have been using Perfect Pattern and I think it’s the cleanest shotgun powder I have ever used. I load 12.5 grains behind 1 oz of 7 1/2 shot in STS hulls, very lite recoil and knocks down shotgun targets easily when I hit ‘em! I will switch to Perfect Pattern when I use up my supply of Extra-Lite. I tried a pound and got good results. PP is a dense powder and would require a different powder bushing and press settings than you use for Clays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I use Red Dot for pistol, rifle and SG loads. Promo is similar to Red Dot. For SG loads I use 10.5gr RD and 1 oz of #8 shot in STS hulls. Works good for me when shooting smokeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak creek martin Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Take a look at the clean shot powder from shooters world. It’s been working great for 12 gauge low recoil and pistol caliber rounds. you can always find it at Bullets By Scarlet, she also has low data for that powder used and tested by many SASS shooters. Scheels is another good supplier on the shelf at a lot of stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 I'm using Perfect Pattern and I'm very happy with it. I did have to change components to get the column height and a good crimp. I'm using 9.5gr which takes a #12 MEC bushing in my 650. I have used it with good results on 7/8, 1 and 1 1/8oz loads. I drop down one wad size, 3/4 wad for 7/8 load, 7/8 wad for 1oz load etc. Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 PP does seem to be pretty easy to get, as are most Hodgdon-labeled powders. Right now it is $267.89 for an 8 pounder at Natchez with free Hazmat through tomorrow, code fh240905 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surgeon Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Titewad/accurate Nitro 100NF are also great for lower power loads and are usually available. they are not as dense as pp. I load 3/4 oz and from my research i would have to use a filler to get a good crimp using PP. using a 3/4oz wad and 7/8 load may solve that issue but shot is more expensive than powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Gun Cole Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 American select with 1-1/8 oz and mec # 26 is a great cowboy load sts hulls, clay buster white AA wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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