Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) This is about the most clueless bunch….I particularly find humorous the guy with gun drawn seeking cover behind others before Enos tries to crash through the gate. Pathetic….. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6358227266112 Edited July 17 by Dirty Dan Dawkins 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Who covers the cost of fence repair in this situation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redleg Reilly, SASS #46372 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Pretty amazing.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) 9 hours ago, sassnetguy50 said: Who covers the cost of fence repair in this situation? Not to be dismissive to you, but in an active shooter emergency, who cares? Two or three guys could have pushed over and bent those 1”-1 1/4” thin wall fence post. Policeman with his sleeves rolled up to show off his biceps may as well put them to some damn use other than picking up emergency room nurses. They obviously watched too many movies and seen where the car crashes into the gate busting the lock shackle. Or how about this, I notice there was no top rail, and they have have ripped their trooper uniform or lost their hat, regardless of that, didn’t anyone consider climbing over the damned fence and rushing hurriedly to the scene ? 8-10 guys being held up over this? Honestly, this may as well been the William J Lapetomane Thruway Edited July 17 by Dirty Dan Dawkins 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 My 13 year old even said he’d just climb over…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 No bolt cutters in the breaching kit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 We used to climb a fence almost exactly like that when I was about ten years old to get into the basketball court at a school down the road. But then again, we didn't worry about getting our pretty uniforms damaged or dirty. This is just embarrassing to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) Buford T Justice would have had no problems. Those two troopers were like Junior in Smokey and the Bandit , “Daddy, Im too danged big. I can’t fit through the gate.” Edited July 17 by Dirty Dan Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) Between a sloped roof that had (at max) a 4/12 pitch and a flimsy chain link fence, it's a good thing that one sniper (on a steeper sloped roof) took out the would-be assassin otherwise he probably would have stolen a cop car and got away. Edited July 17 by Cypress Sun 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: Between a sloped roof that had (at max) a 4/12 pitch and a flimsy chain link fence, it's a good thing that on sniper (on a steeper sloped roof) took out the would-be assassin otherwise he probably would have stolen a cop car and got away. What we need is a year long $20 million investigation along with a $100 million study followed by a multi-billion dollar budget increase to provide more training, equipment and a whole new bureaucracy of incompetents to administer it all. Of course, bolt cutters and axes, but mostly balls and common sense, would have made an exponential difference. Edited July 17 by Dirty Dan Dawkins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: What we need is a year long $20 million investigation along with a $100 million study followed by a multi-billion dollar budget increase to provide more training, equipment and a whole new bureaucracy of incompetents to administer it all. Of course, bolt cutters and axes, but mostly balls and common sense, would have made an exponential difference. Ever wonder why an "investigation" by the Federal government, using Federal employees, using Federal government provided equipment, cost $20 million dollars? Think about it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 9 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: Ever wonder why an "investigation" by the Federal government, using Federal employees, using Federal government provided equipment, cost $20 million dollars? Think about it... Simple….the money is there to be spent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: Not to be dismissive to you, but in an active shooter emergency, who cares? Two or three guys could have pushed over and bent those 1”-1 1/4” thin wall fence post. Policeman with his sleeves rolled up to show off his biceps may as well put them to some damn use other than picking up emergency room nurses. They obviously watched too many movies and seen where the car crashes into the gate busting the lock shackle. Or how about this, I notice there was no top rail, and they have have ripped their trooper uniform or lost their hat, regardless of that, didn’t anyone consider climbing over the damned fence and rushing hurriedly to the scene ? 8-10 guys being held up over this? Honestly, this may as well been the William J Lapetomane Thruway It is probably a question the property owner is asking 4 days after the shooting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) The fence they hit with the car was temporary. It is made of panels that are joined together. Posts don’t go into the ground. They sit on square footings made of the same pipe used to make the panels. I stand corrected Edited July 18 by Sedalia Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Well it is the "Keystone State". 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/16/three-police-snipers-were-inside-building-used-by-/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 said: Well it is the "Keystone State". Finally….I wondered how long it would take for someone to get the joke. 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/16/three-police-snipers-were-inside-building-used-by-/ Of course. It was air conditioned. Edited July 17 by Dirty Dan Dawkins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 31 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/16/three-police-snipers-were-inside-building-used-by-/ The embryo protects the egg...got it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said: The fence they hit with the car was temporary. It is made of panels that are joined together. Posts don’t go into the ground. They sit on square footings made of the same pipe used to make the panels. Negative. That fence offered resistance to the vehicle. You can see where the corner post pulled from the ground and the dirt on the post. The grass is taller at the fence indicating it has been there and they mowed next to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 An impact and a wrench would have removed those corner clips real quick…….I don’t think government agencies want actual “tools” when they say they need the “tools” necessary to do their job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: An impact and a wrench would have removed those corner clips real quick…….I don’t think government agencies want actual “tools” when they say they need the “tools” necessary to do their job True but bolt cutters should be standard equipment in every LEOs vehicle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Bolt Cutters?!….P’shaw! Use a machine gun! We don’t need no stinking bolt cutters! Keystone state cops…Dudley Dooright hats…near brain surgery haircuts…I have no idea where I am going with this…like the keystone cops… Point of Fact and Full Disclosure: Pat Riot hates Pennsylvania. Period! (The remainder of what Pat Riot said has been removed before Pat Riot got his hand slapped by the Mods) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Maybe they could have got through the gate that was shown in one of the videos that was secured with zip ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 It seems that everything I read or hear any more is just one more argument for retroactive birth control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 https://babylonbee.com/news/want-to-be-a-secret-service-agent-here-are-the-12-job-requirements 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Ridge Regulator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/17/2024 at 9:25 AM, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: Not to be dismissive to you, but in an active shooter emergency, who cares? Two or three guys could have pushed over and bent those 1”-1 1/4” thin wall fence post. Policeman with his sleeves rolled up to show off his biceps may as well put them to some damn use other than picking up emergency room nurses. They obviously watched too many movies and seen where the car crashes into the gate busting the lock shackle. Or how about this, I notice there was no top rail, and they have have ripped their trooper uniform or lost their hat, regardless of that, didn’t anyone consider climbing over the damned fence and rushing hurriedly to the scene ? 8-10 guys being held up over this? Honestly, this may as well been the William J Lapetomane Thruway Ok not saying it was a great performance but for all of you out there saying just climb over the fence why don’t you try it in there shoes ? Those are nice pointy dress shoes not combat boots the stateies have on and the holes in that fence are no where big enough to get your toes into so you really need to get yer butts out there and try that fence assault yourself “ and let me know where your family jewels end up when you make it to the top and fall over the other side with your crotch still hung up on the fence top with NO rail on it” then after maybe get a team together and try and Pullover that fence made up of that wimpy steel pipe buried 18” in the ground. If you were talking Seal team 6 here I would say hey guys XXX but we’re not, we’re talking every day police and I just gotta ask when was the last time any of us scaled a chain link fence or pulled one over ( especially wearing, side arm, billy club, radio, gun belt, stun gun, cuffs. In dress shoes and clothes ) last time I did it I was 25 in a tee shirt, sneakers and blue jeans and when that fence wobbled as I went over the top it dumped me on my rib cage. Some things look a lot easier from the side lines ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Ridge Regulator Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Yea watching it again I would LOVE to straddle my family jewels over those twisted steel wires. I bet they would do a wonderful job of ending your worries about kids in the future. Ido think the guy driving the car should have run the car right up over the fence and flattened it to the ground. I THINK it probably had enough nuts to do that ( but I wasn’t driving so I’m not sure) and I noticed it took a couple thousand pound car ramming it twice and still didn’t knock down the wimpy steel fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 Well, they need to work on their problem solving skills then…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 hours ago, Oak Ridge Regulator said: Ok not saying it was a great performance but for all of you out there saying just climb over the fence why don’t you try it in there shoes ? Those are nice pointy dress shoes not combat boots the stateies have on and the holes in that fence are no where big enough to get your toes into so you really need to get yer butts out there and try that fence assault yourself “ and let me know where your family jewels end up when you make it to the top and fall over the other side with your crotch still hung up on the fence top with NO rail on it” then after maybe get a team together and try and Pullover that fence made up of that wimpy steel pipe buried 18” in the ground. If you were talking Seal team 6 here I would say hey guys XXX but we’re not, we’re talking every day police and I just gotta ask when was the last time any of us scaled a chain link fence or pulled one over ( especially wearing, side arm, billy club, radio, gun belt, stun gun, cuffs. In dress shoes and clothes ) last time I did it I was 25 in a tee shirt, sneakers and blue jeans and when that fence wobbled as I went over the top it dumped me on my rib cage. Some things look a lot easier from the side lines ! Whatever type of fence they decide to use for a perimeter it would probably be a good idea to have a plan to get through it, over, under, whatever it takes, if needed. Seems pretty basic. It shouldn't require Seal Team 6 to get through a fence they knew was going to be there. It didn't just pop up magically. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Two guys face each other and lock arms. Guy #3 climbs onto their arms and stands erect. Guy#4 hand guy number 3 an emergency blanket or two to be draped over the wires on top. Guy #4 then climbs over and drops inside the fence. If the shoes are an issue take them off. Elapsed time under three minutes. In the meantime the rest find a way to pull the fence over or break through the apparently flimsy gate locks and hinges. Edited July 19 by Forty Rod SASS 3935 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Funny how some videos are no longer viewable. I guess Fox isn’t making any money on them so…”POOF”! No more video. So, did any of these officers drive a car to the event or did they all take the bus? Automobiles make great battering rams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 They could have rammed the car thru the weakest part of the fence that was 10' away....no, instead they try the strongest part. A pair of dikes (electrical tool) would have easily cut thru the chain link or just cut the tie wire holding the fence onto the posts also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 (edited) 23 hours ago, Oak Ridge Regulator said: Yea watching it again I would LOVE to straddle my family jewels over those twisted steel wires. I bet they would do a wonderful job of ending your worries about kids in the future. Ido think the guy driving the car should have run the car right up over the fence and flattened it to the ground. I THINK it probably had enough nuts to do that ( but I wasn’t driving so I’m not sure) and I noticed it took a couple thousand pound car ramming it twice and still didn’t knock down the wimpy steel fence I’m calling bull on this after seeing a bunch of 5’ nothings from Central/South America breech fences, razor wire and barriers far more challenging than this in nothing more than jeans and T-shirt’s. A lack of a sense of duty and determination is the problem here. Edited July 19 by Dirty Dan Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 (edited) 18 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Two guys face each other and lock arms. Guy #3 climbs onto their arms ans stands erect. Guy#4 hand guy number 3 an emergency blanket or two to be draped over the wires on top. Guy #4 then climbs over and drops inside the fence. If the shoes are an issue take them off. Elapsed time under three minutes. In the meantime the rest find a way to pull the fence over or break through the apparently flimsy gate locks and hinges. You left out the part of what Junior needs to do with his trooper hat. That little detail can wreck even the most well thought out of plans. Edited July 19 by Dirty Dan Dawkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 48 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Funny how some videos are no longer viewable. I guess Fox isn’t making any money on them so…”POOF”! No more video. So, did any of these officers drive a car to the event or did they all take the bus? Automobiles make great battering rams. The mockery must be widespread and not limited to here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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