Jeb Stuart #65654 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 With first handgun engage the targets in a 1-5-2-4-3 sweep. Shooter shoots 1-5, third shot is a squib, he lays gun down on table and draws second gun. Should he just start the sequence over again 1-5-2-4-3 or should he continue the unfinished sequence from his first handgun 2-4-3 then 1-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Yes, start at target where he had the squib, that way if shooter elects to remove empties from 2nd handgun, load 3 more and finish with no 5 second penalties for unfired rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 In my opinion, no matter where he starts the second handgun, if all fired rounds are hits, he will have 3 misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Instructions for 2nd pistol are ? I agree with Boggus Deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb Stuart #65654 Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Hells Comin said: Instructions for 2nd pistol are ? I agree with Boggus Deal Repeat sequence with second handgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 7 minutes ago, Jeb Stuart #65654 said: Repeat sequence with second handgun 3 misses then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 There is no 1st handgun, 2nd handgun. Its first 5 shots, second 5 shots. I'd go with Griff on this one..... although I think the shooter has the option to either continue the sweep for 1st 5 shots, or once he/she declared malfunction and tabled the 1st handgun, they could start the sweep over again. If they so do, they earn 3 misses. EDIT: if the TO directed the shooter to table the 1st handgun and there is NO ROUND stuck in the barrel, shooter can request a reshoot with a clean start. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Shooter choice as to where to engage with second pistol. Assuming the first five rounds and second five rounds (first pistol-second pistol) are to engage the targets the same, the shooter can: 1 - use second pistol to engage targets 1-5-2-4-3 and take three misses 2 - use second pistol to engage targets 2-4-3, then 1-5 - RELOAD three rounds and engage targets 2-4-3 to preserve a clean match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Our pistol sequences are first 5 shots/ 2nd 5 shots. And even if pistols are split by position or another firearm. Shooter ALWAYS has the OPTION to continue the shot count with their pistol of choice. IF the shooter does not intend to reload or "complete" the string - the shooter may accept their "misses" anywhere in the sequence. Continuing in order offers the OPTION to EITHER reload OR accept the misses at the end of the 2nd 5 round string. Skipping to the 2nd five pistol rounds means the shooter is accepting the "misses" at the end of the 1st 5 round string. (reloading and going back to the end of the 1st 5 round string is likely inviting a "P" depending upon stage written options). Remember - only GUNFIGHTERS are forbidden from holstering after beginning a pistol string. All others are free to shoot 2 out of one - holster. Shoot 1 out the other - holster. Back and forth until complete. So picking up the sequence with a differing pistol after X number of rounds is no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Eye Jim Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 A little late to the party on this one. Shooter's choice. If he starts over, he's got 3 misses, obviously but he can call for a reshoot if there isn't a round in the barrel of that first gun.. If he's looking for a clean match he might continue the string and add 3 to the seconds gun to finish the string, but I might only do that if it's the last stage, I'm still clean and there's jam on the line... (It's good jam...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Griff said: Yes, start at target where he had the squib, that way if shooter elects to remove empties from 2nd handgun, load 3 more and finish with no 5 second penalties for unfired rounds. You know, in 25 years I've never seen anybody do that. BUT, like Red Eye Jim said, if it was the last stage of a local match and I was going for a clean match, I would do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 37 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: You know, in 25 years I've never seen anybody do that. BUT, like Red Eye Jim said, if it was the last stage of a local match and I was going for a clean match, I would do it. When EOT was held at Paradise Pass, Someone did something like that to preserve their clean match. Although I believe they were shooting C&B pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said: When EOT was held at Paradise Pass, Someone did something like that to preserve their clean match. Although I believe they were shooting C&B pistols. Yep and his initials are Griff believe it was a little wet and he even posted a video of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 39 minutes ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said: Yep and his initials are Griff believe it was a little wet and he even posted a video of it. I was pretty sure it was Griff. Didn't want to throw him totally under the bus. Figured I just give him a little rope and see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 It took a 186 second stage, but I got a clean match! I kept the guns dry, but forgot about the caps. Luckily, I had enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 Reload choices (REF: p.2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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