Coot Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I ordered some 19lb springs as I've read that seems to be the most reliable upgrade from the factory 23 lb springs. I'm wondering how many of you have used lower, say a 17 or even 15lb spring. If so did you get any light strikes? I'd like to get mine as easy to cook as I can while maintaining reliability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Ruger New Model Vaquero typically comes with a 17lb spring according to a quick google search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I ran Slick McClade's for many years, I believe they are 14 lbs. Of course I only use federal primers! Hells Comin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 All factory springs I have checked ran around 23lbs. on spring tester. I think sure hit makes an 11 lb it is the lightest drop in. I tune my springs to 10-10.5, but other work is needed to run that light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Wolff shows the stock spring as 23lb. I use a 15 or 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 NMV is 17lb factory. OMV was 23lb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Eagle Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I run 15# in both of mine. They reliably set off Federal, Winchester, and Fiocchi primers. Only work about 1/2 the time with CCI though (my CCI SPP are about 3 years old). Got mine from Longhunter, it came with a 15# for use without the lock, a shorter 15# for use if you have the lock, and a 17# I guess for "just in case". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 15lb Wolfe Springs seem to work for me setting off anything I load. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 47 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: NMV is 17lb factory. OMV was 23lb. Every NMV I have checked has been 23. They may have changed at some point but I haven't found one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Hunter SASS #20389L Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Ruger measures their spring weight in a lot more complicated way than most of us (unless you're an engineer). Ruger claims their new stock spring has a rate of a little over 19 pounds. It measures about 20 pounds at rest and close to 25 pounds at full cock. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 interesting , seems there is contention about what comes stock , all three of mine [45s] worked for me right out of the box so ve left them as is - they seemed lighter as delivered than a friends 38s did - not sure that would have any relationship , they go babg and never seemed all that tuff to cock , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Ridge Regulator Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 A couple of things to consider about springs, what style do you shoot ? I shoot gunfighter with montado hammers but I use Winchester primers and I find the super light hammer springs to be a disadvantage. I also find the 30oz trigger springs to be “ light “ until you get used to them, spring kits are cheap and easy to instal plus you get to learn how to disassemble and reassemble your pistol. Buy a wolf hammer spring assortment pak and a trigger spring assortment pak and load a different set in each gun and compare them shooting. You may find one gun needs a 1lb heavier hammer spring to feel the same. YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Hanlon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 As you go with lighter hammer springs one spring which seems to be overlooked or not discussed is the firing pin spring. I have changed my firing pin springs in my Rugers to the ones Shotgun Boogie sells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 hours ago, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: Every NMV I have checked has been 23. They may have changed at some point but I haven't found one. Ask Wolff Gunsprings what Ruger uses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Ask Wolff Gunsprings what Ruger uses I know what they list, just saying I haven't run across any that light. I use the same method of spring checking a Wolff spring and they come out at advertised weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/2/2024 at 4:25 PM, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: Every NMV I have checked has been 23. They may have changed at some point but I haven't found one. Hey Sarge, What do the shorter stock NV with the internal key lock run? When you said all the New Vaquero stock spring you tested were 23lb was that the new longer spring after Ruger got rid of the internal lock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Different shooters will have different needs. I run Jimmy Spurs NMVs. The springs are very light, probably in the 14 lb range. They work for me. Iron Cowboy OTH doesn't like his that light, he says he out runs the springs (I believe him). I took out the springs that came with his NMVs (the gunsmith had cut them so short we were getting occasional failure to fire) and replaced them with 19 lb springs, which are just right, for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Different shooters will have different needs. I run Jimmy Spurs NMVs. The springs are very light, probably in the 14 lb range. They work for me. Iron Cowboy OTH doesn't like his that light, he says he out runs the springs (I believe him). I took out the springs that came with his NMVs (the gunsmith had cut them so short we were getting occasional failure to fire) and replaced them with 19 lb springs, which are just right, for him. You can 'shim' the hammer spring with #10AN washers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 11 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: Hey Sarge, What do the shorter stock NV with the internal key lock run? When you said all the New Vaquero stock spring you tested were 23lb was that the new longer spring after Ruger got rid of the internal lock? All I have checked fall in the 23lb. range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Different shooters will have different needs. I run Jimmy Spurs NMVs. The springs are very light, probably in the 14 lb range. They work for me. Iron Cowboy OTH doesn't like his that light, he says he out runs the springs (I believe him). I took out the springs that came with his NMVs (the gunsmith had cut them so short we were getting occasional failure to fire) and replaced them with 19 lb springs, which are just right, for him. I have a set of Jimmy Spurs and the springs checked in the 10 lb range 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: I have a set of Jimmy Spurs and the springs checked in the 10 lb range That sounds about right. Out of curiosity what are the trigger pulls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Count me in the “could be lighter” camp. For years I was running Seven’s magic springs and about every other year adding one of the plastic shims as the springs softened with use. Don’t know the weight but never had a misfire in competition though sometimes in practice when I was not completely pulling the hammer back trying to go faster. Probably about 14#. Ran out of my stash of them and installed Wolff 17# and like them a lot. Seem more “positive” in striking the primer and leave a considerably deeper dent. My hands aren’t the most sensitive and I really can’t tell the difference. YMMV Regards Gateway Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: That sounds about right. Out of curiosity what are the trigger pulls? 5 pull average 1 lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER said: 5 pull average 1 lb. Sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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