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While exploring an old abandoned mill in NM. Is it a 45-70 case?

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Looks like a rim fire case, no primer pocket.

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Looks like one of the old copper cases that separated and made the gun a club.

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Likely this

BENET-PRIMED - A common style of inside-primed car-tridge developed by Col. S.V Benet commander of Frankford Arsenal in the late 1860s. It was used extensively in early U.S. military ammunition. A copper or iron cup was secured inside the head of the case by characteristic crimps. This cup served as an anvil to enable the firing pin to activate the priming mixture and also to reinforce the head of the case.benet_primed.gif

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Totally guessing here; maybe .56-56 Spencer?

 

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Whatever caliber, a very neat find!

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Whatever it is, it appears to have been a lost cartridge, as opposed to a used piece of brass, since I see no evidence that it's been fired.

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Neat find. It’s amazing that its not corroded. 
 

Just guessing here but looking at Slim’s picture could it be #9 the .50-45-400 Cadet?

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I bet it would have been loud in that mine!

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7 hours ago, Rip Snorter said:

Likely this

BENET-PRIMED - A common style of inside-primed car-tridge developed by Col. S.V Benet commander of Frankford Arsenal in the late 1860s. It was used extensively in early U.S. military ammunition. A copper or iron cup was secured inside the head of the case by characteristic crimps. This cup served as an anvil to enable the firing pin to activate the priming mixture and also to reinforce the head of the case.benet_primed.gif

Bingo. I can see the two holes at the base on the inside!

1 hour ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

I bet it would have been loud in that mine!

A mill, not a mine

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7 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

Totally guessing here; maybe .56-56 Spencer?

 

Wiki:

 

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Looks too long for that. And no crimp.

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6 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said:

The Benet priming system has the primer inside the case like that.

One side of the case is very dark after cleaning. It could have been in a fire and detonated. That would explain the lack of any mark from a hammer strike.

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