Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 While exploring an old abandoned mill in NM. Is it a 45-70 case? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Looks like a rim fire case, no primer pocket. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Looks like one of the old copper cases that separated and made the gun a club. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Likely this BENET-PRIMED - A common style of inside-primed car-tridge developed by Col. S.V Benet commander of Frankford Arsenal in the late 1860s. It was used extensively in early U.S. military ammunition. A copper or iron cup was secured inside the head of the case by characteristic crimps. This cup served as an anvil to enable the firing pin to activate the priming mixture and also to reinforce the head of the case. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Totally guessing here; maybe .56-56 Spencer? Wiki: 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Whatever caliber, a very neat find! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Based on its proportions, it looks to me like the .58 Springfield shown in this chart. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 hours ago, Yul Lose said: Looks like a rim fire case, no primer pocket. The Benet priming system has the primer inside the case like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Whatever it is, it appears to have been a lost cartridge, as opposed to a used piece of brass, since I see no evidence that it's been fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Neat find. It’s amazing that its not corroded. Just guessing here but looking at Slim’s picture could it be #9 the .50-45-400 Cadet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 I bet it would have been loud in that mine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 7 hours ago, Rip Snorter said: Likely this BENET-PRIMED - A common style of inside-primed car-tridge developed by Col. S.V Benet commander of Frankford Arsenal in the late 1860s. It was used extensively in early U.S. military ammunition. A copper or iron cup was secured inside the head of the case by characteristic crimps. This cup served as an anvil to enable the firing pin to activate the priming mixture and also to reinforce the head of the case. Bingo. I can see the two holes at the base on the inside! 1 hour ago, J-BAR #18287 said: I bet it would have been loud in that mine! A mill, not a mine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 (edited) 7 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: Totally guessing here; maybe .56-56 Spencer? Wiki: Looks too long for that. And no crimp. Edited September 2 by Utah Bob #35998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: The Benet priming system has the primer inside the case like that. One side of the case is very dark after cleaning. It could have been in a fire and detonated. That would explain the lack of any mark from a hammer strike. Edited September 2 by Utah Bob #35998 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Cool find there Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Looks like a good find after a fun day exploring. Happy for you, UB! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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