Trigger Mike Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Stumbled on a Winchester 1892 in 357 only. I didn’t buy it but assume the 38 is a might too short to cycle correctly. Curious to what these are worth ? This one was used but not fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 The two I had were Rossi copies. Both of them had trouble with 38 special length cartridges, but ran 357 magnum reliably. Your mileage may vary. They are apparently still in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 Does the JM marking make any difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 A friend of mine has one in .357 and it becomes a Jam-O-Matic with .38Spl as well. We were going to try putting a sleeve in the magazine to see if that helped, but it seems simpler to just use .357 brass in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Trigger Mike said: Does the JM marking make any difference? “JM” is a Marlin thing. Is this gun made by Winchester? I would buy it if it was. You can load .38 Special powered cartridges in .357 cases. I have a Win. 94 Trails End in .357 and it’s a really accurate shooter. I can shoot .38 Spl from it but it will jam. If it’s a Rossi, I personally would walk away. I have only owned one Rossi and that was enough for me. PITA gun. Did I mention my Winchester 94 .357 was accurate? Love shooting real magnum loads from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I have an Uberti 73 in .357 and I shoot.38’s. My OAL is 1.48 they work fine. I would think a 92 would be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 The ‘73 and the ‘92 are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT guns. The feeding systems are probably MORE different than night and day!! The ‘92 is waaay more sensitive to overall cartilage length because of the feeding system and much MUCH more difficult to make work with shorter or longer OALs than the toggle link rifles. The ‘92 IS capable of handling much stouter loads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 My Rossi used to give me fits with .38s. I followed the instructions from this site, and now it works flawlessly. The big change on mine came when I lightened the ejector spring. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Rossitune.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Sometime in the late 90s I bought my first Rossi. A 92 SRC in 357. And it fed everything I put in it, including empty 38 brass. The only thing it did not like was some 3D factory reloads with an extremely long nosed SWC bullet. I would read on the wire and here in the Saloon (ACS) about how this 357 would not feed 38s and that 357 would not feed 38s, and I would smile because mine never had any problem. I gave that 357 to my daughter, but I currently have four Rossi 92s - 44/40, 44 Magnum, and 45 Colt. And the Magnum will feed both Magnum and Special. Maybe I just lucked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: The ‘73 and the ‘92 are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT guns. The feeding systems are probably MORE different than night and day!! The ‘92 is waaay more sensitive to overall cartilage length because of the feeding system and much MUCH more difficult to make work with shorter or longer OALs than the toggle link rifles. The ‘92 IS capable of handling much stouter loads! I had a Rossi 92 that ate .38’s with no problem as long as I had the OAL at around 1.48-1.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alpo said: Sometime in the late 90s I bought my first Rossi. A 92 SRC in 357. And it fed everything I put in it, including empty 38 brass. The only thing it did not like was some 3D factory reloads with an extremely long nosed SWC bullet. I would read on the wire and here in the Saloon (ACS) about how this 357 would not feed 38s and that 357 would not feed 38s, and I would smile because mine never had any problem. I gave that 357 to my daughter, but I currently have four Rossi 92s - 44/40, 44 Magnum, and 45 Colt. And the Magnum will feed both Magnum and Special. Maybe I just lucked out. I think I had a bad Rossi 92 to begin with. Mine was a .45 Colt with the 24” octagon barrel. I bought it from a well known SASS shooter with the promise “I only used it in one match. It’s only had a hundred rounds through it at most. It’s been sitting in my safe for 10 years.” Yeah, Bull ****! Anyway, it was very cartridge length sensitive. I had to replace springs and parts as some knucklehead “slicked it up”. It was running fine then all of a sudden it would puke rounds out the top like crazy. The problem was “all of a sudden” the cartridge guides needed shimming. I fixed that and sold it to Cabela’s with the stipulation they don’t sell it to another Cowboy Action Shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I have an Uberti 73 in .357 and I shoot.38’s. My OAL is 1.48 they work fine. I would think a 92 would be the same. Different loading system, Rye. The '73 uses an elevator that raises the cartridge up before being loaded into the chamber. The '92 has a carrier that lifts the rounds at an angle. The OAL length is critical to keep from flipping the rounds out of the top in an 1892. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: Different loading system, Rye. The '73 uses an elevator that raises the cartridge up before being loaded into the chamber. The '92 has a carrier that lifts the rounds at an angle. The OAL length is critical to keep from flipping the rounds out of the top in an 1892. I know all about the difference in the actions but that Rossi still worked with .38's! It wasn't very smooth but it cycled everytime just like the previous folks said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I got a 92 rifle in .45 Colt. It's marked EMF and Hartford. It fired beautifully right out of the box and the only problem I've had was it had a trigger pull that would rupture a tendon. Local gunsmith charged me a whopping $5.00 to lighten it and I have zero problems with it since and I have shot all manner of loads (including some BP loads that Cliff hanger made) through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I know all about the difference in the actions but that Rossi still worked with .38's! It wasn't very smooth but it cycled everytime just like the previous folks said. The two I had would throw 38s over my shoulder unless they were loaded over 1.50". Mine were original non safety versions. I have a 44-40 version now that is a sweet shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: The two I had would throw 38s over my shoulder unless they were loaded over 1.50". Mine were original non safety versions. I have a 44-40 version now that is a sweet shooter. Mine ejected them far and away as well but it always cycled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Mine ejected them far and away as well but it always cycled. Mine threw the loaded round off the carrier and out of the gun before the round could be loaded into the chamber. If it stayed on the carrier, it would feed, but the action of the carrier raising from the magazine tube would throw shorter rounds out of the gun before they made it to the chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I've had 2 of the Rossi 92s in .357. The first was fussy on 38s, had to be 140 grain bullets or longer to feed right. The second is not as fussy and has fed everything so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 The .357 guns are very sensitive to bullet shape and cartridge OAL. They can be made reliable with proper smithing as shown in Nate Kiowa Jones dvd. Purchase at http://www.stevesgunz.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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