Sleepy Floyd Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 what is the difference between the sharp Tail style hammers and the hammers on the Cameron 1878? Sleepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 CZ Cimarron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Floyd, as you peruse those comparison photos, please note the two little protrusions at the top front of the Cimarron. Those little protrusions, as the gun comes out of the box are actually MEAT SLICERS and will open your hand up like a stuck pig. Those MUST be carefully dulled or filed smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 37 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Floyd, as you peruse those comparison photos, please note the two little protrusions at the top front of the Cimarron. Those little protrusions, as the gun comes out of the box are actually MEAT SLICERS and will open your hand up like a stuck pig. Those MUST be carefully dulled or filed smooth. That is, IF you cock the hammers with a sweep of the palm of your hand. They are still sharp on my two TTN's but then I cock them one at a time with my thumb as I am reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 One thing the photos do not show is the distance between the hammers. The 1878 is popular because the hammers are close together and many people cock both hammers at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 CZ CIMARRON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanigan Flats Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I have a TTN, the “new” Cinmaron and a CZ. I cock both hammers with my right thumb. I like the TTN just fine. But for me the hammers are a bit to close. I feel like I loose perifial vision. The Cimmaron I have used only at a couple of matches. It cocks and dumps good. It is a good shotgun in my opinion but… the wrist is to small for my liking it just does not fit me. The CZ’s hammers are farther apart. Fixes my perifial vision problem and I can still easily cock both hammers with my right thumb. The weight is good and it fits me better than the above shotguns. All of the 3 are how they came out of the box.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Howdy Here are the hammers on my old Stevens Hammered Double. Because of the placement of the hammers and the unlocking lever (or what ever its called) I cannot cock the hammers with the action open. I have to shut the action to cock the hammers. I am never in a hurry, I cock each hammer separately with my thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On the other side, newer hammer doubles had smaller hammers and spurs set below top of gun and far apart. Here is my Remington Whitmore 1882 model. The hammers were a transition from percussion guns, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Floyd Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 Thanks, everyone. That helps. Sleepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 The hammers on a CZ can be bent to be closer together. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet Hole Kid SASS#81025 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid Rich said: The hammers on a CZ can be bent to be closer together. kR Have you tried it? I have been tempted to try it but was afraid they may be some kind of pot metal and would break. If you have done it, what was your procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I took it to one of our local gunsmiths and had an action job and had the hammers repositioned. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 5:31 AM, Kid Rich said: The hammers on a CZ can be bent to be closer together. kR How much can they be bent without being considered an external modification? Picture? Thanks Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 3:31 AM, Kid Rich said: The hammers on a CZ can be bent to be closer together. kR Do you have a reference to any documentation allowing that particular modification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Jim Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 7:33 AM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: That is, IF you cock the hammers with a sweep of the palm of your hand. They are still sharp on my two TTN's but then I cock them one at a time with my thumb as I am reloading. I just reach with my right thumb and cock both hammers at the same time after I shuck the hulls. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Howdy shotgunners, I shoot a Rossi, back up by a Liberty II and an old Belgian double. I sweep both hammers at once. None are as close together as the TTN. I have noticed that in addition to the closeness and shape of the hammers, the weight of the hammer springs makes a difference. Rev. Chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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