
Flanigan Flats
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I can easily bevel the extractor nose. I’m also going to focus on being smooth and easy at this weekends match.
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The extractor pressure feels as described. Just starting to feel pain on my finger tip with it lifted enough to go rim of cartridge. I do not have a trigger pull gauge here at the house so the finger test is the best I can do.
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This is possible with the older rifle. The extractor if pushed to the right will make contact with the right side of the extractor cut out. I can’t seem to make it do it while cycling dummy rounds at a slow controlled rate. The whole feeding and extraction cycle looks and feels butter smooth. While running the lever slow and easy.
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I’ll check myself. Bent lever was replaced. I am going to slow way down with the rifle this weekend. I am still not positive that a slightly long OAL can’t cause the issue. If the gun can fire out of battery then in theory the slightly to long round can enter the chamber the bolt not completely be in battery and the trigger pulled and the round goes bang. yes my lever safety’s are there. I will check them for functionality to.
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I will look at the tab on the bottom of the bolt on the old rifle when I get home as well. I’ll point out that both bolts are new. The one in the old gun was replaced recently. In the last few months. The bottom tab was pushed down some on the old bolt and we thought we’d found the problem then. The old gun is 13 years old (new bolt assembly.) The new rifle is well Brand new.
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Define Jams. Mine fails to extract then jams when next round moves toward the already occupied chamber.
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I’ll pull one of the rounds a part and check the powder charge as well. But if they were hot I would definitely have noticed the increased recoil from my hand guns.
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Define double clutching the lever. I have checked the extractor as much as I know how. When I get home this week I’ll check the extractor in the old rifle as you suggested. When I get the new one back from having a new extractor put in it I’ll. Check it as you suggested. The Lever Safeties are in place on both rifles. I am going to try to cycle some ammo through and watch how the extractor does its thing. It is beyond frustrating
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The ammo was loaded long. I can check extractor tension and every one of them that failed had good tension. But I am going to confirm that on the older one when I get home this week. I have fired just 10 rounds out of it since I got it back from having the extractor groove cleaned up and a new extractor installed. I used a small batch of ammo for that match that was at an OAL length of 1.57ish. The long ammo is the only coated ammunition that I have loaded. It got long by accident. I’m keeping an eye on that. But it is very easily identified. And I have less than 100 rounds of it left. that ammunition is the only commonality between the rifles and is far from hot. 5.5 grns of trailboss with a 200 Grn RNFP bullet
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When each of the extractors failed I can lift and wiggle the extractor with my finger. There is no tension at all and it just slips off the case. i don’t know how much tension was on the extractor on the new rifle. Pioneer Gun works has a pretty good reputation so I would assume it to be good to go. The commonality between the two rifles was the ammunition.
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All right here we go. Long story to ask three questions. If you don’t want the story skip to the end. For roughly the last year likely longer my main match Uberti 1873 in 45 Colt has been eating extractors. It doesn’t matter which one I put in it. I might get a whole match out of it but probably not. The first time it failed I was running hard and bent the stock lever. For fun I replaced the extractor with the “claw” and went ahead and did the C&I short stroke kit that comes with a lever. Half a match and the extractor failed. I gave it to a local shooter who has kept this rifle running for me for a decade or so and he did the same thing I did but used stuff from Pioneer gunworks. Rifle feels fantastic but yep, half a match in extractor failed. Between times I was running a Uberti 66 carbine 45 Colt (same ammo as 73) with Pioneer Gun Works guts. It runs good but it doesn’t fit/feel as good as a 73 to me. But it was affordable when I was in need. So my local shooter Gunsmith guy takes the 73 home and pulls the barrel off and cleans up the extractor groove and of course replaces the extractor again. In amongst all of this partially because I’ve always wanted one and I was frustrated as all hell I ordered and bought a Uberti 1873 in Colt 45 from Pioneer Gunworks with all the bells and whistles. Not cheap. Fourth stage yesterday with the new rifle the extractor quit working. To be fair that was the 16th stage I’d used that rifle on. But only the four yesterday with the ammo I had been feeding my old rifle and the 66. So it is that ammo. It causing extractor issues in 2 different rifles. I am obviously slow in the head. I should have figured this out already. The ammo measure out at OAL 1.593. My research this morning has told me that is too long. My question is why is it killing extractors but not causing feed issues? Why did the 66 not develop issues? I started loading that last batch of ammo in the OAL 1.58 range and something shifted or changed in the seating die. Fortunately that batch of ammo is almost gone. My handguns can eat the rest. I have already started another batch and it is measuring at OAL 1.576. What OAL of 45 Colt are others running.
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Very quick research on the internet says the front sight is wrong and signifies that it is a cut down rifle.
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I will try to do a SN look up on it tomorrow afternoon. I am not an expert. I was told it was a carbine and I accepted that.
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SPF
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I believe it is a factory carbine.
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It is still available
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You are welcome. I want to find her a new home, but I want it to be a good one where she’ll be used and appreciated.
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The wood is solid. She isn’t exactly pretty but she has good bones.
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I would be very nervous about shooting smokeless through it.
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The pot’s right. It is a nice rifle. PM me if you’re interested. Are you going to see JJ in your travels this summer? Maybe we can avoid the shipping.
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My opinion is it would be very heavy for plainsman. But I’ve seen heavier used. The front sight would not have to be changed. Replied
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No, only the receiver matters to the Government. We’ll ship it directly to you.
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Someone please give this old girl a new home. She is a shooter and will give you great service on any long range line.
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Price lowered or the Sunday morning bargain shoppers. $750 shipped o your FFL
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There is no rear sight to go with it. The rifle is fully ready to accept your rear veneer sight of choice.