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El CupAJoe

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Hey all,

    I was wondering if anyone could identify General Crook's Pith helmet as it doesn't appear to be the M1880 or later versions of US sun helmet.  I suppose I could get one that looks like a 1887 or 1880 model and it would work weather I was dressed as a brit or American Cav, but I like the look of the Crook hat and most military versions I've seen in this style date much later than the 1880's.  Thanks in advance.

 

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here's another pic

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Considering the time frame you might have good luck checking Victorian era English Colonial Pith helmets or Sola (Solar?) Topee and other names.  Steam Punk would be another possibility.

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1 minute ago, Rip Snorter said:

Considering the time frame you might have good luck checking Victorian era English Colonial Pith helmets or Sola (Solar?) Topee and other names.  Steam Punk would be another possibility.

most of the british 1800's look like the american 1880 with the colonial pattern as far as I can tell1880-624x391.jpg.d04e6df316152b49fc79086dd92d4c1d.jpg

American above, Ft Riley KS,

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1870's colonial style british

 

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There were civil service, military and civilian - I haven't seen one quite as flat as in your photo, but flatter than the first two types.  May take some digging in obscure places.

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If an 1897 pump gun is okay I would think a pre-1900 pith helmet would be okay. 

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9 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

If an 1897 pump gun is okay I would think a pre-1900 pith helmet would be okay. 

I think the only thing a pith helmet would not be legal for is B-Western which requires a "Felt" hat, since these aren't felt I don't even think it would qualify for this

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otherwise Gene Hackman's Crook in "Geronimo" would be a fun outfit.

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apparently his hat sold out of the prop house for $375 + fees after the movie.

Gene Hackman "General George Crook" hat from Geronimo: An American Legend (icollector.com)

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Tough to beat a straw sombrero in heat and humidity.

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Well, Sunbody does not list a pith helmet that I could find, but they do make a fine, durable hat for a reasonable price. And-STYLE

 

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I have never seen another example of that particular style. I suspect he got it from some commercial haberdashery or had it custom made.

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On 2/25/2022 at 1:36 PM, El CupAJoe said:

I think the only thing a pith helmet would not be legal for is B-Western which requires a "Felt" hat, since these aren't felt I don't even think it would qualify for this

image.png.4cfe66a92ab65dfb068a5b334fef77e8.png

otherwise Gene Hackman's Crook in "Geronimo" would be a fun outfit.

image.png.2a7cab4c5645038ced679462f9d27279.png

apparently his hat sold out of the prop house for $375 + fees after the movie.

Gene Hackman "General George Crook" hat from Geronimo: An American Legend (icollector.com)

Hey @PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L, does conforming to the hat requirement when doing a look alike mean that there must be a hat, or that the hat must also be felt, because I'd kinda like to know if this outfit would be B-western approved, or just something I'd have to keep in a non-costume category.  I wasn't sure if this phrasing was intended to allow Indian head dresses and the like as long as it was from a movie depiction etc...

 

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On 2/25/2022 at 11:14 AM, El CupAJoe said:

most of the british 1800's look like the american 1880 with the colonial pattern as far as I can tell1880-624x391.jpg.d04e6df316152b49fc79086dd92d4c1d.jpg

American above, Ft Riley KS,

170px-Henry_M_Stanley_1872.jpg.75ff0d306c919b5ada776e299fb47731.jpg

1870's colonial style british

 

 

Notice the two left of center?

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3 hours ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said:

 

Notice the two left of center?

The really friendly ones? :lol:

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Get ahold of What Price Glory.  They used to have all manner of olde style uniform and head gear at very reasonable prices.  Good to do business with, too, although I haven't for couple of years now.

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His hat is commercially made civilian.  Not a military one at all. 

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