John Boy Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr127/text/ih What will be the impact on gun owners and SASS? Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 They better start building jails now OLG Link to comment
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I’m not a lawyer but this doesn’t look legal to me. States rights? Sheila Jackson Lee is a bond fide nutcase! I doubt this will go anywhere. Link to comment
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Lets not panic quite yet. Regardless of party affiliation; there are still members of Congress who understand and will protect the Constitution. This is of course a horrendous bill; but is simply garbage being fed to the hogs of this persons district who view such trash as progress. Link to comment
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 From past memories, there seems to be a 'majority' of members on both sides that are very cautious about voting for new, permanent type gun laws. Some of the more liberal, mouthy members get media attention, but when it gets down to subcommittees and actual voting, many are not to comfortable voting for new gun laws, etc. On the other hand, I can see where ammo might get taxed higher, using some well meaning efforts to spend the extra 'gun tax' revenue as an excuse to raise taxes. Anyhow, thats my .02 ..........Widder Link to comment
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Widder, SASS #59054 said: From past memories, there seems to be a 'majority' of members on both sides that are very cautious about voting for new, permanent type gun laws. Some of the more liberal, mouthy members get media attention, but when it gets down to subcommittees and actual voting, many are not very comfortable voting for new gun laws, etc. On the other hand, I can see where ammo might get taxed higher, using some well meaning efforts to spend the extra 'gun tax' revenue as an excuse to raise taxes. Anyhow, thats my .02 ..........Widder Link to comment
John Boy Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Let’s hope the prediction is correct... This bill has a 2% chance of being enacted. Factors considered: The bill's primary sponsor is from the state/territory: TX. The bill's primary sponsor is a Democrat. The bill is assigned to the House Judiciary committee. (Factors are based on correlations which may not indicate causation.) Predictions are by Skopos Labs. Link to comment
Red Wolf Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 What!!!!!!!!!????????? That's ridiculous. Red Wolf Link to comment
John Kloehr Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It is a rehash of HR 4081 from the 116th session. That one died without going to a vote. I can't see this one passing either, and if it did, I can't see it as constitutional. Lets consider some tidbits from it: Creates a firearms registry Creates an owners registry Database includes firearms storage locations Database open to all members of the public Requires license to own a firearm Must notify Fed of all firearms loans to other people Person firearm loaned to must be licensed License expires annually for 1st 5 years License expires every 3 years after 1st 5 years Renewal requires 8 hours of AG-approved training in each licensed weapon type License requires NICS check License requires psych evaluation Psychologists must be approved by the AG Psych eval requires interviewing spouses and ex-spouses Psych eval requires interviewing at least two additional household members or associates Requires gun owners to have an insurance policy Fee for insurance is paid to the AG Insurance is $800 per year No exception for antique firearms Antique firearms must be stored when not displayed in a manner approved by the AG "Military style" weapons require special licensing "Military style" license requires 24 hours training Surrender all firearms to the AG if license is revoked/not renewed Violations carry penalties up to $100,000 and 25 years in jail If a transferred firearm is used in a crime, suicide, or unintentional shooting, the transferor can go to prison for 40 years Bans .50 cal Bans "large capacity" magazines I'm sure I missed something... Link to comment
bgavin Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 If this law goes through as written, I will be faced with either divesting all my guns, or dying broke in prison, and my wife out on the streets. Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 That damned cold dead fingers thing again. Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Remember Australia. Our "O So Wise" leadership would love to do that here. Just think... somewhere in this bin may be a Pigeon Grade Model 12. Link to comment
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 SIMPLE!!! DO NOT COMPLY!!! Link to comment
Boomstick Bruce Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 5:16 PM, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Remember Australia. Our "O So Wise" leadership would love to do that here. Just think... somewhere in this bin may be a Pigeon Grade Model 12. Yup, I found it too... Link to comment
Texas Shane Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Boomstick Bruce said: Yup, I found it too... That can’t happen here we have the 2nd amendment Link to comment
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