Yusta B. Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Is it just me or does the Dillon small powder bar run noticeably more accurately with Clays than with TiteGroup or HP 38 ? Edit (at about 2.7 to 3.5 gr or so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I don't know about Clays but I get extremely good accuracy with Alliant Promo for my 357 shells in the small Dillon powder bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I use the small powder bar on my 550 with TiteGroup at 3.2 grains for my 38's. After 10 years have only needed to adjust with each new lot of powder. I check weight every hundred or so rounds (when I reload the primer magazine) have never had a measurable discrepancy. Got a 650 last year (2019) and using the small powder bar/TiteGroup combination I have loaded almost 10,000 rounds with the same level of accuracy. YMMV Regards Gateway Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 HP38/WW231 meters just fine in my 550 OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I don't know. All I've ever used in my 650's has been Clays. I do increase powder charge in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I got very accurate drops of TiteGroup from my Dillon small charge bar (back when I used to run TG powder). Now I run WST, and get perhaps even better accuracy on those drops (both around 4 grains). Clean the bar and the funnel/drop area with isopropyl alcohol to make sure nothing greasy or sticky has built up in the measure or the expander/drop tube area. Make SURE you are getting full travel in both directions of the bar. It's easy to get the linkage out of adjustment, to have the link holding screws loosen, or not have a little bit of light oil in the linkage mechanism, and all those can lead to partial throws, or jerky bar movement. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perro Del Diablo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Dillon powder measure works by volume. Ball powder meters best with short cut and flakes next extruded can be inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Yusta B. said: Is it just me or does the Dillon small powder bar run noticeably more accurately with Clays than with TiteGroup or HP 38 ? Edit (at about 2.7 to 3.5 gr or so) I'm running about 3.3 grains of Clays, they are very consistent out of my 650 set up for 38's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Assassin - Yes Clays works fine. I'm looking for an accuracy of charge weight comparing Clays to HP38 & TiteGroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Judging by the replies it must be just you. I load with Trailboss and W231 for pistol. Never any appreciable difference in the metering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Wee #15785 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I use a lot of different powders and some will run spot on for 1000's of rounds and some powders will have a .1gr-.2 gr difference at times. It depends on the type powder how well it holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L said: Judging by the replies it must be just you. I load with Trailboss and W231 for pistol. Never any appreciable difference in the metering. You're most probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 20 hours ago, Yusta B. said: Is it just me or does the Dillon small powder bar run noticeably more accurately with Clays than with TiteGroup or HP 38 ? Edit (at about 2.7 to 3.5 gr or so) Mine is very accurate with 3.0 Clays, never tried the others. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Stone, SASS #53366 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I load Clays, V V N320, and titegroup on a Dillon 550 and while I got good results with the small powder bar I find, because of the small amounts of powder, I get slightly better results/consistence with the extra small powder bar. Marshal Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 In my Sordid past . . I confess to having used those Heathen, Fad, Smokeless Propellants. My "Go-To" propellant of choice was TightGroup. Worked well in EVERYTHING. Rand the "small" powder bar in both of my Dillon 650s with marvelous accuracy. I only found it necessary to check the throw when I "got around to it." 44s. 45s, 38s, 357s, Everything. I have however, been enlightened. I no longer utilize that Heathen, Fad, Smokeless stuff and with my newfound freedom, I only require the "Large" Powder Bar in my Dillons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Marshal Stone, SASS #53366 said: I load Clays, V V N320, and titegroup on a Dillon 550 and while I got good results with the small powder bar I find, because of the small amounts of powder, I get slightly better results/consistence with the extra small powder bar. Marshal Stone Thanks - got one on order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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