Pee Wee #15785

If you want to get into NRA BP Cartridge Silhouette you will find at the 1000 yard targets the wind will will move your lead much more in .45-70 than if you go with .45-90 or bigger. If NRA BP Cartridge Silhouette is not in the cards the .45-70 will take any game and shoot most any SASS range. I like the .38-55 for SASS if not shooting my Trapdoors. I do own a C Sharps in .45-70 but the Trapdoor Rifle is what comes out for most things needing shot, targets or game. Any of the single shot rifles used in SASS will turn your shoulder black and blue if you put 100 or so rounds down range practicing. Now in NRA BP Cartridge Silhouette the guns from Pedersoli are making in-roads.

not shooting but my brother and I will try to drop by so he can see what it is all about. He lives in Mechanicsburg, Oh

I use a bullet that is 525 gr lubed with SPG, lubed felt wad, fiber wad, enough black FFFg goex to give a 1/16 compression with bullet seated to max length for the chamber I'm using it in. I also use a heavy crimp. This is shot in a trapdoor rifle, for SASS I never used a blow tube or wet patch. 1000 yards for money I used a blow tube. I used a heavy crimp as the rounds were carried in a rifle box on my belt on top of a horse a lot. Today with shots most under 100 yards I still load the same and the coyotes don't ask for a second round.

Any Wildbunch Matches around Springfield, Ohio this weekend.

Boston John Doucette a story from the late great Boston John Doucette Understand that from the time I could put together a rational thought, I’ve been fascinated by guns. My mother used to prop me in front of the little round picture box as a baby so I could watch men on horseback shooting at each other with guns... The first “real” shooter I owned was a Mattel Fanner 50... it shot Mattel Shootin’ Shells and used Greenie Stick ‘Em caps. I was greased-lightning fast and Grim Reaper deadly with it... for my punishment of erroneous deeds my mom would take the gun away for a few days... dad, on the other hand, used the gunbelt for a more heartily applied punishment to the South end of this Northbound cowpoke. It seems like that gunbelt got as much [applied] use as that Fanner 50. Who knew old people would jump that high when you shot them in the butt? Sorry, Nana... but the bone china tea set dad bought to replace the one you were carrying was much prettier and newer than that 150 year old set you were always bragging to Aunt Gladys about... And Cousin Peter? Sorry about the eye, buddy. But at least it kept you out of the army... When I was twelve I was shipped off for the summer to church camp, where I was introduced to the joys of the .22 Long Rifle cartridge. There were six shooters in my squad and we could choose from the six semi-auto and two bolt action rifles available. Even then it was evident I’d be a purist: I was the only one to choose a bolt action. While the other kids were busy shooting hundreds of rounds of ammo downrange as quickly as they could, I carefully aimed my bolt action in the general direction of the targets... while actually shooting birds over by the pond like Gary Cooper taught George Tobias to shoot turkeys in Sgt. York– “sorta from back to front...”, and imagining each of those evil birds was wearing a German helmet. I still say the counselors should have told us on Orientation Day. I mean, who even knew there WERE swans, huh? They looked like big ducks wearing holdup masks, if you really want to know the truth. Dad didn’t see it that way, though... especially since he had to pay for the swans– and they didn’t refund the seven weeks’ unused camp tuition when they expelled me, either. Did I mention what dad used my Fanner 50 gunbelt for? After my exposure to the real thing at camp– albeit for only a brief period– I wasn’t too interested in playing with the Daisy BB guns my friends had. I was above owning one of those childish things... but not above borrowing one to play with every once in awhile. And Ritchie? Sorry about the eye, buddy. But at least it kept you out of the army... I finally turned eighteen and could [legally] own my own black powder revolver, but I was just a bit short in the savings department. Not being the patient sort, I chose the most expedient means to get the money. As I look back now, I suppose I am sorry those junior high kids couldn’t turn in their paper route money that week... I’d been looking at a pretty, brass-framed BP revolver in the case at Shattuck’s Hardware for a couple of months, and boy! Was I ever proud the day I went in and plunked down the money for it! Eleven dollars in one dollar bills... and eighteen dollars in quarter and dimes. Old Man Shattuck was a great old guy, whose eyesight, thankfully, had gotten really bad over the years... otherwise he’d have chased me out of the store like he used to after he caught me stealing that Barlow when I was thirteen... but he didn’t recognize me as he sold me the .36 caliber pistol... he even threw in a box of pure lead balls with the pistol and percussion caps when I bought the pound of black powder. I told Mr. Shattuck that I was anxious to shoot it and was heading straight for the dump, and asked him to show me how to load the gun. “It’s pretty simple,” I recall his telling me. “You measure your powder into the cylinder chamber, put a bullet over it, ram it down in with the hinged thing under the barrel, put your cap over a nipple, and you’re set to shoot.” I thanked him for his help and headed for the door. “One last thing!” he called to me as I was running out the door, “Don’t forget to put grease over your balls! Crisco works fine!” I didn’t understand the need for the last part, but I stopped at Tony’s Grocery and bought a little blue can of Crisco grease. And now... to the dump! Where bottles and cans, rats and crows were just waiting for this ol’ cowboy to do ‘em in! I replayed Mr. Shattuck’s instructions in my head as I laid out all my gear on the smoothed-out, brown paper bag at my feet. The first thing I realized was that I didn’t have anything to measure the powder with... UNTIL I remembered my knife! I carried one of those folding stag handled camper’s knives– you know, the ones with a fork on one side and a spoon on the other? The spoon was perfect for what I needed! Very carefully (thank heaven there wasn’t any wind blowing) I poured a spoonful of powder from the can into the spoon, then tipped the spoon up and tapped the powder into the cylinder. Sure, I spilled a bunch over because the spoon held so much more, but what the heck! Powder was cheap, back then... and I had plenty to spare... Being a methodical kind of kid, I filled all six chambers with the powder, managing to spill as much around my feet, I suppose, as I was getting into the cylinder. I can laugh now, but when I bent over to get the bullets all the powder fell out of the cylinders onto my boots... so I had to fill them all over again! I managed to get all the chambers filled with powder and then stuck a bullet into the first cylinder... I had to really tap it in with my knife to get it started... then shoved it in as far as it would go with the rammer thing. I lost a little powder in the process, but eventually I had all six chambers loaded and ready to go. Then I put percussion caps over the things sticking out the ends of the cylinders... Oops! I forgot a couple of things! Now, I’ll admit my ignorance about a lot of things... but why I was supposed to smear Crisco on my balls is still a mystery to me. But I figured Old Man Shattuck knew what he was about, so I looked around to make sure I was alone, then dropped my pants to my knees, opened the can of Crisco and began to smear it over Lefty and Righty. Standing there in the hot summer sun, slowly massaging soft, silky grease into my scrotum... gee WHIZ! I guess the old man knew what he was talking about after all ! Welcome to the joys of shooting! I had to force myself out of my reverie... One last thing and then I’d be ready to shoot... I took my baseball cap off and stuffed it inside my shirt over my left nipple. Okay... I guessed I was ready (except, of course, that in my haste I’d forgotten to pull up my pants...) Well sir, I crooked my left arm out in front of my face, rested the trigger guard of the pistol in my right hand on it, drew a tight bead on an old Four Roses bottle, and squeezed the trigger. I remember a bright flash, a burning sensation on my arm and face, then something hit me square in the forehead and the lights went out. It must have been quite sometime later when I awoke. I was laid out across the back seat of Sheriff Miller’s car (I knew this from the plexi-glass partition and a previous ride when I’d been sixteen), the rider’s side door was open and my feet and lower legs were hanging out. As I raised my head to look for the source of the voices I heard I felt like someone had hit me in the head with a sledgehammer. I could see two men in the dim, evening light, just outside the door and within my range of vision. At least, I thought they were two men... I could hear two speaking but they were sorta spinning around and they looked like six. From the voices I knew they were Sheriff Miller and my Dad... “... busy on another call so the volunteer fire department was the first out here,” I heard the Sheriff explaining to my dad. “Mabel Krutchner called it in... said she saw smoke comin’ from the dump and had heard an awful explosion over this way. “Near as I can tell from what the firemen say, when they got here they found your boy lying over there. At first they thought he was dead. The dump was on fire all around him, his left arm and face were all black, his boots were scorched pretty badly, he had a HUGE knot on his forehead where somebody’d cold-cocked him... and... well, we think the boy’s been... well, taken advantage of.” “What do you mean ‘Taken advantage of?’” I heard my dad ask. “Well, Al, it’s like this,” the Sheriff said. “The first men to get to your boy said he was unconscious; they found part of a gun by his body; his pants were down around his ankles, his crotch was smeared with KY Jelly and he was sportin’ a big boner...” Then I heard Mr. Shattuck’s voice. “I always knew there was something wrong with that boy... This will probably keep him out of the army...” And THAT’S why I don’t shoot black powder... This is a work of fiction. Any similarities to persons living or dead... are pretty close!

When I started SASS aquarium hose was one of the things used to keep caps on as the nipples size was all over the place and replacement was from the makers only. It was so bad that a Navy Arms Company 51 Navy had a note in the box to check bore size and order a mold from Lyman. Still have the box and note with most other boxes from the years. Think the date was late 60's.

For me it was when everyone shot factory stock guns except for an action job. There are very few today that shot that way.

I have to wonder how it is a clean match when say 24 rounds is needed to hit every target and you use 25 rounds. When I started SASS the way matches were done is sure different than today. One club I shot with let me shoot a single LaMatt loaded with 9 rounds of .44 and an about .70 cal ball in the shotgun for the 10th round. They could sure count the number of rounds shot, makes you wonder what our schools teach today. I sometimes think that SASS isn't as much fun today. Way to many rules as to many shooters started gaming the shoots. With that BS lets go have fun and enjoy what we have shooting 30 rounds in a 24 round stage saying we had a clean match.

I have a pair of Rugers in .44 mag he did. One was a gun he had used some. Don't think there are any better than him and just a few that are equal to him. Bought off Sam Cotton with all the work done. Full Ogelsby signature job-He replaces the barrel's with custom ones, line bored, rev. spin, trigger stop, hammer stop, action work, 1" at 25 yards.

could I have a copy? warren5421@indy.rr.com

My wife had glasses for distance then about 10 years ago she had surgery both eyes 2 weeks apart. She did not need glasses till last time to have eyes checked. After all the testing she needed glass to see distance. The doctor told her that the eyes takes 10-20 years to start changing. I had both eyes done 2 years ago and the light got to bright for me. I wear sunglasses night and day. I use a a yellow for late evening and night. I use the green or brown for day light.

I have 2 nickeled, bad job, 3rd gen with black powder frames, consec serial numbers, .44 WCF, 5 1/2 barrels. One has 3 cylinders, 2 with 1st gen taper in .44 WCF and .44 SP and one .44 WCF with no taper. The other only has the two tapered cylinders. Each have over 20,000 rounds, all black powder, through them before I started using 4 2nd gen Colt 1851's and 2 Colt 2 gen stainless consec serial numbered 1860's. Unless my son is shooting the Colt SAA's stay at home. He likes his 7 1/2" blued USFA's in .44 WCF better.