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Looking for folks who have used both. 
 

im considering replacing my 650 with a 750. I have a 550, and like the priming system on it more than the 650. The 550 and 750 priming systems look very similar. 
 

do you think the 750 is a worthwhile upgrade? I’m guessing by the time it’s all said and done it will cost me $200 or so (I would sell the 650 after swapping out, keeping the case feeder) 

 

I use the 550 for rifle, 38-55, 45-60, 45-70. Not high volume stuff.  It works really well. I only use the 650 for 38sp. Not going to be loading Any 45ACP or any other bulk pistol ammo, so large primer setup on a 650/750 Not really needed. 
I also load a few others on a Lee Turret, 32SW, 38SW, 44-40. A couple of hundred rounds per year at most. 

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Now I'm just 180 degrees out I like the 650 priming system.  Although it does have it's problems like blowing a whole stack of primers.  Gets your attention but doesn't do a lot of harm except put the machine out of business until the package arrives from Dillon.  On the other hand the 550 has a host of little problems which just aggravates me and slows down production.  I don't load for fun, I load to shoot.  So production is important to me.  Because loading 5000 at a sitting isn't uncommon for me little aggravations can become big aggravations.  The priming system on the 650 just hasn't caused me many headaches over the years.  Could be that I would like the 750 but the 650 has been good to me particularly if I keep it clean.  Maybe they have improved the 550 system since mine was made which seems likely since mine is one of the first ones made.  Two hundred isn't much to find out if you like something better particularly if it is better.  Then again you might even decide to keep them both for a small and large primer setup.

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I load on two Dillon 650s.  I have one set up for Large primers and I have one set up for Small primers.  I don't really remember how long I have had mine, but at least 20 Years.  20 trouble free years.  Loading for IDPA and CAS.  Many many hundreds of thousands of rounds.  Reading the specs of the 750, I see it as evolutionary.  Rather than an "Upgrade" I see the 750 as the next "middle" loading machine for folks moving up from slower more mundane machines.  If you going to "step up" from a 550, then by all means, go to the latest BIG thing.  The 750.  If you already have and load on a 650, the 750 is a lateral move.  

 

HOWEVER:

 

If you just simply desire a 750, I can't think of a good reason not to go with a 750.  Not necessary to be an "upgrade."  Just because you want one.  As mentioned, if you already have a 650, keep it.  Dispose of the 550, get the 750 because you want one and then set up each press for different primers.  My sweetheart solved the dilemma for me.  Go tired of me whining about changing the Primer feed and suggested I shut up and just get another Press.  BOOM!!  Two 650s.

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I have both a 650 and a 750.  The 650 is set up for small pistol primers and the 750 is set up for large pistol primers.  The only real difference between the two that I can see is the primer setup.  I like the fact that on the 750 it will not keep feeding primers when the one on the arm is still in place.  But on my 650 I got a neat little switch from ebay that turns off the primer feed with just a little click and stops if from feeding primers when none are needed.  I was told my Dillon that the 750 has had some re-engineering done to it to make it smoother but I haven’t notices the difference.  If I were you I would stay with the 650 and get the primer shutoff switch from ebay.

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I have 650 and 750.  Never used a 550.

I have experienced launching the primer rod out of the 650 (along with splitting primer tube for 1/2 the length).

Once the 750 priming system was aligned, it works GREAT.

The 750 will not feed another primer like the 650, a very nice feature.

I use the 650 for large primers 45ACP and 44 Mag (wild bunch).

The 750 is used for small primers, 38-357 & 5.56

I would sell the 550 and get a 750.

It is too bad there is not a simple way to share one case feeder, I have one for each.

 

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My goal is to pick up another 550 next year.

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I have a 650 and a 750 for two different purposes.  But as mentioned above, the only difference is the primer system.  I certainly wouldn’t move from a functioning 650 to a 750.  But having a 5 station vs a 4 station is a big deal because I’m a big fan of the powder check option, and the 4 station 550 doesn’t have room if you’re using separate seating and crimp dies.  

 

I concur with Wyliefox saying changeout the 550 and get a 750.

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Good subject. 

 

I have two 650's, with one of them damn near worn out.  Decided to buy the 750, cause it is replacing the worn out 650. 

I am very pleased with the 750.  Primer system on the 750 is better than the 650, in my opinion. 

 

Large Piece of cake with icing on it and ice cream inside.  You will love it,  

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I have a 650, love it.  Would gladly take a 750 so I don't have to change primer sizes.  Not sure which machine would go for which size, but hope to have that decision in the future.

 

 

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Hoss, 

Talk to Cptn George Baylor.....

he switched to a 750 from a 650!

he is very tired of all of the primers exploding at once!

 

see you saturday!

 

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I've had one 650 for more than twenty years and have never had the primers ignite when I was using it. My son did once more than fifteen years ago, but he's a big kid and tended to operate the machine like a bull in a China shop. Dillon promptly replaced the damaged parts for free, the strong outer metal tube on the primer feed prevents any injury. The black plastic follower rod dinged the ceiling in the garage a bit and looked like a pig's tail afterwards. I recently bought a second 650 from a friend's estate and will run small primers on one and large on the other. I suspect changing primer size on the 750 may be easier than on the 650, but don't know for sure. My older machine is getting a little tired and will be going back to Dillon for a refurb over the winter. I would guestimate  200-300k rounds have been loaded on the older machine.

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On 10/26/2020 at 7:59 PM, Nickel City Dude said:

...on my 650 I got a neat little switch from ebay that turns off the primer feed with just a little click and stops if from feeding primers when none are needed. ...

 

What?!??!  I'm interested!  Care to share "How to" in another thread?

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On 10/26/2020 at 11:45 PM, Oklahoma Dee said:

Good subject. 

 

I have two 650's, with one of them damn near worn out.  Decided to buy the 750, cause it is replacing the worn out 650. ...

 

Wouldn't Dillon's life time warranty rebuild your "worn out" 650 for free?

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59 minutes ago, Matthew Duncan said:

 

What?!??!  I'm interested!  Care to share "How to" in another thread?

Here is one of the primer cutoff switches on ebay.  I got mine from a US company but don't see it now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL650-Primer-Stop-Switch-Slide-with-Ball-Bearing-Mechanism-Easy-On-Off/153729703079?hash=item23cb011ca7:g:zywAAOSwJ9Vd42Lj

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42 minutes ago, Nickel City Dude said:

Here is one of the primer cutoff switches on ebay.  I got mine from a US company but don't see it now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-XL650-Primer-Stop-Switch-Slide-with-Ball-Bearing-Mechanism-Easy-On-Off/153729703079?hash=item23cb011ca7:g:zywAAOSwJ9Vd42Lj

Ahhh!  I read "switch" and thought electrical!  It's mechanical!  Thank you!

 

Back to the regular scheduled OP toptic.... 

 

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1 hour ago, Matthew Duncan said:

 

Wouldn't Dillon's life time warranty rebuild your "worn out" 650 for free?

They will refurbish it, for about 100.  I did that as well.  After setting up the 750....I have yet to find space to set her back up. 

 

The 750 has, in my opinion, is better and newer.  Sort of like the 2012 F250, I drive, 220,000 miles and still going.  Does she run good...yes.  Does she need to be retired?  Probably.  That time, may not be of my choosing.  The Dillon 750, was of my choosing and damn glad I did it.

 

Although, I have yet to accidently set off any primers, while reloading on the 650. I can see where...if one is a bit hurried and use a Casino Slot Machine technique ( :D ) on working the 650.....One can probably set off a primer(s).  I usually can feel the pinch or hard to set primer and I will stop.  Pull and inspect the problem.  Take what ever course I need to do to continue.  Be it, toss that particular piece of brass, or what ever.  The 750 seems to work smoother.  Not sure why.

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I’m about 99% sold on the 750. Now all I have to do is sell the Ruger 9mm Pistol Caliber Carbine I won at GMR to finance the 750! 

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Lead time on the 750 is estimated at twenty (20) weeks. So is the case feeder.   

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Double alpha says they have them in stock, same price($649), I ordered one this evening. 

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Dillon is supposed to be working on a retrofit for the 650 that will use the 750 priming system,Might want to wait for that to come out before spending any money.

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14 hours ago, Major E A Sterner #12916 said:

Dillon is supposed to be working on a retrofit for the 650 that will use the 750 priming system,Might want to wait for that to come out before spending any money.

They say in their website it’s not possible to retrofit 650 to 750

 

they do say they will at some point sell a stripped down frame only, any you can transfer all the parts off your 650 to it. 
 

 

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That must have been what I saw, I just remembered it wrong, Kind of like shooting the stage wrong;););)

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15 hours ago, Hoss said:

Double alpha says they have them in stock, same price($649), I ordered one this evening. 

 

moves like this is why you are my hero!

see you saturday! 

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1 minute ago, a d said:

 

moves like this is why you are my hero!

see you saturday! 

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Double Alpha sent me an email, said would not be able to ship until 11/6 :(

 

 

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