Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Understand that! But I guarantee we’re not the only people poking fun with them, just like we do with all the other services. Oh, I know. There is a huge whiteboard in my "cubicle farm" that has a running list of "suggestions" for what to call the service members. "Space Man First Class" won't cut it. It was supposed to be a serious inquiry because the brass is truly stumped, but there isn't a serious suggestion on there. The plans to incorporate National Guard and Reserve elements into the Space Force are several years away. Currently the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard units that are space organizations have a TACON relationship to the USSF. Eventually they will be USSF Reserve and USSF National Guard. In my weekend job I work Army space operations. They are exploring whether our service will retain us or whether we should transition to USSF. Given that I am qualified in two MOSs, I will not be making the transition for various reasons I won't post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: In my weekend job I work Army space operations. They are exploring whether our service will retain us or whether we should transition to USSF. Given that I am qualified in two MOSs, I will not be making the transition for various reasons I won't post here. Good for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: in Salsalido near the ........ oh! Starfleet Academy ......... It's Sausalito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It’ll be forever known as Saucerlito, Flying Saucerlito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: In my weekend job I work Army space operations. They are exploring whether our service will retain us or whether we should transition to USSF. Given that I am qualified in two MOSs, I will not be making the transition for various reasons I won't post here. Guaranteed that will happen. I reckon anything above the ionosphere will be a Space Force responsibility. I’m still aggravated from the Air Force taking the army’s Caribou away in 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 hours ago, Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 said: Concept Where is that big black helmet, with face plate, that a General gets? You're my Son , Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: There is a huge whiteboard in my "cubicle farm" that has a running list of "suggestions" for what to call the service members. "Space Man First Class" won't cut it. "Spacer" wouldn't cut it, either. Given the scope of the responsibilities a rating system as is used in the Navy makes the most sense, since most of the USSF will be dealing with technical analysis. Or some combination of rating for junior enlisted and then going to the more conventional rank structure for senior enlisted and officers. Which still doesn't address what the equivalent of seaman, airman, soldier, or Marine should be. I saw online some suggestions such as "Technician" or "Crewman." Neither term seeming to inspire esprit de corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: Oh, I know. There is a huge whiteboard in my "cubicle farm" that has a running list of "suggestions" for what to call the service members. "Space Man First Class" won't cut it. It was supposed to be a serious inquiry because the brass is truly stumped, but there isn't a serious suggestion on there. They should have anticipated that. And do you have sufficient Space in your cubicle farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Guaranteed that will happen. I reckon anything above the ionosphere will be a Space Force responsibility. Yes, but I'm key developmentally qualified as an MP, having done my battalion command in an MP unit. If they force the space people to the USSF Reserves, I will flip-flop my primary and secondary MOS, and stay in the MP world. I'll explain why over private messaging, but not publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: And do you have sufficient Space in your cubicle farm? It's funny you mention that. Last year, as the whole space thing came to the forefront (which was recommended by a SECDEF report issued in 1998!!!!) we began expanding our operations. That included hiring new people. We haven't reached it yet as we continue to grow, but we figure our office alone will quadruple from what it was last year. As a result, the Air Force (we weren't under USSF yet) spent a ton of money to make our cubicles SMALLER. They are now the absolute minimum size that OSHA allows for full-time employees. So, no, this Space Force civilian contractor doesn't have enough space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Major Crimes said: We have our first rocket prototype ready. Where's the beer cooler? We both know that Aussies aren't going anywhere without beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme said: Where is that big black helmet, with face plate, that a General gets? You're my Son , Luke. I like it! I like it! I filled out a preliminary form online. Even though I put down my actual date of birth (1942), I actually got an email from an Air Force SSgt recruiter near me! I had to reply that I am about 51 years too late, and with Type II diabetes, and a few other things, I don't think they would want me. Oh, I could probably control satellites...or sweep or mop the floors. There is an AF base near me, and part of it has some huge "golf balls" that do something with satellites (or they used to some years back when I took a tour). Given the proposed officer's rank, I don't think I'd like being called Lieutenant (O-3) again, but I never rose to O-6 (proposed as captain instead of colonel). All I know about "space cadets" is that about 66 of the most recent USAFA graduates went Space Force. Stay well, Pards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: "Spacer" wouldn't cut it, either. Given the scope of the responsibilities a rating system as is used in the Navy makes the most sense, since most of the USSF will be dealing with technical analysis. Or some combination of rating for junior enlisted and then going to the more conventional rank structure for senior enlisted and officers. Which still doesn't address what the equivalent of seaman, airman, soldier, or Marine should be. I saw online some suggestions such as "Technician" or "Crewman." Neither term seeming to inspire esprit de corps. Space Rangers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Seeing as how this “force” will not actually go into space I think Specialist ranks below E5 would be appropriate and Air Force or Navy tank for non coms and officers. Except for the Airman rank, the Air Force stick with their army grades when they organized in ‘48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Name for Space Force service men and women: Astroneers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 said: Concept Somebody has been reading too much Sci-Fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Somebody has been reading too much Sci-Fi. Approved by the duchess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Approved by the duchess. Only because she doesn't like the Grayson neckties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 said: Name for Space Force service men and women: Astroneers With a modification of this as the hymn for their service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Only because she doesn't like the Grayson neckties. But she's working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Where's the beer cooler? We both know that Aussies aren't going anywhere without beer. We got that covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: It's Sausalito ...... thankyou sir ....... I sit here corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...... thankyou sir ....... I sit here corrected Salty pico sez I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...... thankyou sir ....... I sit here corrected 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Salty pico sez I. It is a quaint little snobbish, elitist place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Subdeacon Joe said: It is a quaint little snobbish, elitist place. Been to a few of those. Every state has em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Been to a few of those. Every state has em. We call ours "Berkley on the Brazos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: Oh, I know. There is a huge whiteboard in my "cubicle farm" that has a running list of "suggestions" for what to call the service members. "Space Man First Class" won't cut it. It was supposed to be a serious inquiry because the brass is truly stumped, but there isn't a serious suggestion on there. The plans to incorporate National Guard and Reserve elements into the Space Force are several years away. Currently the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard units that are space organizations have a TACON relationship to the USSF. Eventually they will be USSF Reserve and USSF National Guard. In my weekend job I work Army space operations. They are exploring whether our service will retain us or whether we should transition to USSF. Given that I am qualified in two MOSs, I will not be making the transition for various reasons I won't post here. USSF service members should be Galaxions. You will thank me later. Maybe in another dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Been to a few of those. Every state has em. These look down on the bob tons and other glitterati of San Francisco. Loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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