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I wish now that I would have never brought up the subject of boots...I should have known better... Ya know, "back in the day", people here on the Wire discussed what was "period correct" and what was "historically plausible" versus what was "historically accurate". Some drew a line in the sand and stuck by what they considered "correct, period"! Now people that were "reenactors" would chime in with their opinions on what was "of the era" and others would sight the rules regarding what was proper for one's "costume". Some people would argue that "costume" was a word for "Halloween clothes" but "I could care less" what the "period correct" clothes were called..."back in the day"....during that time...Anyway, "it is what it is" folks. We could all make "guesstimates" or make "wild ---ed guesses" about what was "of the era", but the fact is "winter is getting long" and it ain't over for a while. So getting spun up over what was "historically accurate" "back in the day" just leads to fussin' and feuding and bad feelings. I know I am guilty of a little pot stirring...heck, "back in the day" I can remember arguing over what was "period correct" only to find later on that my "guesstimates" were way off and weren't "historically plausible" but I stuck to my Rugers and it caused some bad blood. We are all in this for the fun so let's not allow the fun to be tainted by "serious wild ___ed guesses" about was was "historically plausible"..."Just sayin'...

Well look what I brought home today for 4 C notes. I just took possession of this beautiful little gal; Model 15-4 (mfr 1980) with target hammer and target trigger. She came with her original box, all papers, no tools. I am hard pressed not to believe she isn't a brand new gun. With the exception of two light dings on the right grip panel, I can't find a blemish on her. No loss of blueing anywhere. I doubt this sweetie has ever seen a holster. My wife has really taken a liking to her and she wants this "Combat Masterpiece" to be her night stand gun. We are taking her to the range on Monday to see how she performs. I name my special guns and I'm going to call this sweet little lady, "Polly." Ain't Polly a beauty?

Parson is in private room. I visited him at lunch today. Not sure he knew who I was. Had him up and walking and he was feeding himself. This is amazing after 8 1/2 brain surgery 3 days ago. Be in hospital another week then 2 weeks rehab. Got 6 weeks radiation and 6 months chemo to go. We still need to remember him in our prayers. Thankfully he has caring family members that will help him through the recovery. Parson is out match director and he will be missed during his recovery. I am sure he will be surprised to learn how many of his cowboy buddies have been keeping up with his condition.

Can find more experts than you can shake a stick at. You don't even have to ask. GW

During the post-CW Indian Wars period, the Army hired a whole bunch of civilian employee specialists. They were employed by the Quartermaster Dept., usually by the Acting Assistant Quartermaster (AAQM) at each post. These specialists included scouts, teamsters (to drive supply wagons in the field with the troops, and/or to carry supplies from railheads to various remote posts), packers (who managed pack animals with troops in the field, such as with BGen Crook's column on the Big Horn & Yellowstone Expedition of 1876). Civilian carpenters and others were also hired at various posts. A list of Persons and Articles Hired By the Quartermaster at (name of post) can be obtained from the National Archives. Civilian scouts included W.F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody, Frank and Luther North (commander and second-in-command of the Pawnee Scouts), and the Indian Scouts themselves. Frank Grouard and "Big" and "Little Bat" Baptiste, et al, were also hired. Scouts and employees likely to be in the field with the troops might be issued firearms (if they didn't have their own), horses and rations. If they supplied their own horses, they might be reimbursed by the Army, such as happened with some of the civilians employed for Forsythe's Scouts in 1868. The arms issued might be current issue or obsolescent ones as available. For example: Frank Grouard was issued one Colt's Single Action Army revolver, for whom an officer was responsible, but was also "given" another by Gen. Crook himself! A young teamster, Henry Pell, was apparently issued a M1869 Sharps Carbine, cal. .50-70, by the QM at Sidney Barracks, Nebraska, in 1875, from among the five still in the possession of Co. G., 3rd Cav, even though they had been issued their Springfield Carbines, cal. .45-70 a year and a half earlier. There were over 50,000 rounds of .50-70 ammo at Sidney at the time, and the .50 cal arms were used for target practice and foraging for food to supplement the troops' diets. Pell apparently acquired his Sharps, either reporting it lost and having the cost (around $15) deducted from his pay, or by outright purchase. Unfortunately, there are no records of either, but he carved his name in the stock, probably to distinguish that from the other four Sharps. (He wouldn't have autographed a stolen weapon, and if he didn't own it, he wouldn't have carved up government property.) As far as clothing, gun accoutrements (holsters, belts, cartridge boxes, etc.) are concerned, if they weren't issued, it was catch as catch can! Leaves a lot of latitude for SASS members!

You're a tad late. That party ended over a 100 years ago!

85 dBA - Long term exposure risk 120 dBA - Risk of hearing damage after 7 minutes exposure 140 dBA - Immediate risk of hearing damage I wear hearing aids due to long term shooting with no hearing protection that are calibrated to cut off any noise at 85 dBA. Sure wish I had started wearing hearing protection 60 years ago!

Sir, we do understand each other! There IS room in SASS for correct and authentic, as well as close enough for a great time without lookin' all "Urban Cowboy" like. I , personally, am well past attempting to lug a saddle over one shoulder, and the thought of trying to do this without a gun cart is, well, enough to have this older guy who could use Lasic Surgery considering just plinking. Agree that when it's too much like a job, it's too much work...unless someone gets into that! If we were to meet, I would happily reciprocate your courtesy!

If it's your picture MDQ.

Slippery slope.

However, my favorite all time jet fighter is the F-86. Most beautiful air frame ever.

As close as the pistol targets are now-WHO needs 'sites'...... OLG

Howdy Sorry, but the Cobra/Davis derringers are junk. I bought a Davis 38 Special derringer a long time ago, before they changed their name to Cobra. In addition to the barrels being steel embedded in a cheap zinc casting, the trigger is TERRIBLE. The angle of the full cock notch and trigger on these is very positive. Which means you are cocking the hammer further when you pull the trigger. To pull the trigger I actually had to pull downward as well as back to overcome the poor cocking notch angle. Most of the time it took pulling the trigger with the index fingers of both hands. I would not buy one again.

Calamity, you are right on in your assessment. You should have seen the change in culture at the distribution centers. It went from a feeling of inclusion to one of cut to the bone. They lost their "soul". Many of the workers just don't care, just going through the motions. It got worse when Sears started putting Lands End products in their retail stores. What a way to confuse the market and dilute your distribution. Then they try to go upscale and that didn't work either. They keep hiring these people from high profile retailers who try to manage from 1500 miles away. Nothing says I don't care about you like not wanting to associate with you and your small town values. The last president was some fancy babe from New York who would grace the HQ with her presence every couple months but had to stay in a hotel at the state capitol, some 40 miles away instead of staying at one of the local hotels. The locals weren't fancy enough for her. So her limo would shuttle her back and forth. She lasted 10 months. The board is clueless. They forget their bread and butter is everyday, quality work/office clothes, comfortable recreation clothes. They aren't fancy but they get it done and if done consistently, will make money. It isn't fashion trendy but it is a solid model to work from.

There's one club around here that allows it. However, like PaleWolf pointed out, once you step outside the rules, where do you stop? "I'd shoot Cowboy Action if I could use my 1100 Remington, a Glock 17, a Ruger 10/22, and didn't have to wear the goofy clothes." I'd definitely shoot my Lugers or S&W M&P revolvers in Wild Bunch. :-)

Sights ? We dont need No stinking Sights !

Bonds are fine pieces, but hardly what I'd call a derringer. They are almost as large as a Colt Combat Commander .45 ACP. That said, they are easier to control due to the size and weight. BUT, they are costly for what you will use one for. Sold mine after 4 years of no use. Al

Just be forewarned that if you do this, then you will be buying a colt. Nothing feels the same in ones hand as a real colt. Some come close, but a real colt is where it's at.

What if the only firearms I have are a DA .44, an Auto 5 12ga, and a Winchester pump .22? Can y'all create a special "class" so I can play, too?

Conestoga, Please understand, my only point was that "period correct" has valid meaning for people trying to represent historical events, but not in a game where many (if not most of us) are reliving our childhoods with guns that actually go bang. I don't know anything about NCOWS and I want no part of "who's more authentic" type of politics. I was a reenactor for many years and I got burned out on those kinds of discussions (OK, that and sleeping on the hard ground). I'm here to have fun. Maybe some day we'll meet and I'll buy ya one!

More rules ? That would be Period Correct for todays Culture !

Period correct is way too specific. I prefer "historically plausible".

I can no longer hear women and children, proof that God loves me and wants me to be happy.