John Henry Quick

I remember years ago hearing that it was "food grade" oil. I wonder if anyone here might be willing to down a cup of it and let us know how it goes?

Same here! We used to lube our M16-A1's with LSA and they would immediately rust - it may have been a good lube, but it had no preservation properties whatsoever.. Not long before they upgraded us to the M16-A2, they started issuing us CLP and I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I still like the stuff, but I'm going to switch to One Shot - I'm already using One Shot Case Lube, so why not?

Looks like an excellent study! I think I am sold on One Shot for all non-BP uses. I would caution people about Frog Lube: While it seems to have all of the properties one would want and it's even BP compatible, I found out the hard way that it will harden into a wax-like substance that ruined my day. I have been using Ballistol on flintlocks for at least 20 years and when I started shooting C&B a couple of years ago, I would snap caps before loading my gear for a match and never had a problem with ignition. I tried Frog Lube on an evil black rifle and it seemed to work great. I figured I'd try it with my Navy's, so I cleaned up after a match, lubed them with Frog Lube, put them away in the safe and then the evening before the next match, I snapped caps like normal to be sure they were clear and packed up for the match. When my turn came at stage one, I had 3 misfires with one gun and four with the other. It was embarrassing as all get out and I learned a valuable lesson about physically clearing the vents and not simply trusting snapping caps to do the job. However, what's relevant here is that when I pushed the Frog Lube out of the vents, it had formed a hard wax that a Remington #10 couldn't push out. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be used; simply be aware of what it can do if it collects and hardens.

SASS Alias: John Henry Quick SASS #: 97501 Where you are from: Stafford County, Virginia How long you’ve been Cowboy Action Shooting: 5 yrs

Marie, Nemesis is correct that you cannot use the 97 in Frontier categories, but you can still use black powder in the other categories, so don't let that stop you from using the One True Powder.

My opinion is backed by having been in and around the Marine Corps from long before the M9 right up to today and almost no one has a kind word to say about the M9. That was an acquisition based purely on politics and not the needs of the warfighter. I could count on one hand the few that I've seen say kind things about it and statistically they are unicorns. It's time to get rid of it. I am also a member of the Quantico Shooting Club and have run and participated in many USPSA and Steel Challenge matches. I almost never see a Beretta at those matches and it's not without reason. The current crop of Marines shoot striker-fired guns at these matches and the Single Stack class has dwindled almost out of existence. The rare birds that do show up with a Beretta in Production class do so because it's the only gun they know and they generally show up a couple of matches later with a Glock or an XD because they've now seen what a disadvantage the M9 puts them in. I'm not trying to argue for 1911's - that was my gun of choice for many years and I still have a special place in my heart for them, but technology has passed them by and the "modern tactical pistols" that you refer to are striker-fired guns, not single or double action guns like the 1911 or the M9. The SA/DA's day is over. Also, I'm not arguing about caliber; the 9x19 NATO is the standard and nothing any of us say will change that. I think we are in agreement that the Sig was not a wise choice. My youngest son is with the BOP and was trained at FLETC, so he has the training you have referred to previously and he also works a second job selling guns. Like me, he has great respect for Sig's quality of construction, but he does not have a high opinion of their latest efforts to compete with Glock and SA in the striker-fired market and he particularly dislikes the 320. My personal favorite is the XD Mod.2 because it fits my hand perfectly, I like the grip angle a bit better than a Glock and when fired it falls right back into proper sight alignment. However, I totally support MARSOC's choice of the Glock 19 because anyone can shoot it (my wife has one), it's as close to idiot-proof as a gun can get and it's extremely low maintenance. PD's across America have gone to Glocks for good reason and it's time that the military take politics out of the equation.

I got the 5th edition through Amazon from a bookstore in Texas. In a way I am just now (re)discovering S&W revolvers. As soon as I turned 21 I bought an RG .38 and then realized what a POS I had purchased, so I went out and bought a new Model 10. It seemed rather plain at the time, but when I think back it was quite a beautiful little revolver! A little later I sold the Model 10 and bought a Model 19, but then I sold it and bought a Colt Commander and 1911's were all I would buy for the next 30 years. However, once I discovered CAS, my interest in revolvers was rekindled and I now have a Model 10 and a Model 64 and I love them. I bought the above manual with no expectation of ever working on them, but instead just to learn more about them and this book has proven to be quite valuable in that effort. Thanks again for bringing this to my attention!

I think that's the most important statement made in this entire thread. This is the beginning of my sixth year, so I'm a relative newcomer, and I'm 58 years old, so I'm relatively young in the world of SASS. We baby boomers grew up playing "Cowboys and Indians" so this game is right up our alley, but my boys who are in their 30's did not. For them it was Transformers or Power Rangers or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and they don't relate to this game at all. I don't have a clue what today's 20 year olds grew up playing. The good folks down in Florida came up with a couple of cool videos to attract a younger crowd, but that alone is not enough. I like to say that one shouldn't complain without offering a solution, but in this case, I come up dry. However, if we don't collectively recognize this and if people brighter than me don't come up with some good ideas, then we as an organization will soon age right out of existence.

The simple fact is that the services don't want it and the special ops folks who are more likely than anyone to actually use it have been leading the charge to get rid of it for over 20 years. Do you know something that they don't?

If the membership database is on the same server as this website, or is on a server that can be accessed via web services, then it could be made fully automatic (that's the kind of junk I do for the Marine Corps these days). However, in a small organization like SASS, I would bet that the membership database is more likely an Access database sitting on someone's desktop machine.

Search was no help, but someone posted mention of "The S&W Revolvers, A Shop Manual" along with a photo if I remember correctly. Whoever you are, I want to thank you! That manual has a wealth of information, including historical info that I found enlightening. Once again, thanks!

The M9's long service does not grant it status of any kind. The SEALS and other up-close-and-personal organizations have been trying with some limited success to get away from the M9 since the 90's and the Army has tried to getaway from it before, only to have the funding yanked away for other wartime expenses. Marine Expeditionary Unit Special Operations Capable (MEUSOC) units are switching to the Glock - it's not about the 9mm cartridge; it's about the gun firing it. The Marine Corps as a whole is not jumping on the current bandwagon because of deep funding issues and will wait and see how the new handgun works out for the Army. That does not imply any love for the Beretta - I've been with the Marine Corps since 1975 (20 years active duty and a contractor ever since) and I can count the number of people I've seen make positive comments about the M9 on one hand. https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/breaking-the-armys-new-handgun-is-a-sig/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20170120_FridayDigest_105&utm_campaign=/blog/breaking-the-armys-new-handgun-is-a-sig/

I'm glad this subject came up because I had forgotten to renew and honestly, I don't know when I was due to renew, but I just did so before posting this.