Buckshot Bear Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just received 4 packets of Starline .44-40 brass and its straight walled. I gather it must always come like that from the factory? I've run it all through a sizing die now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 All 3,000 cases I have received from Star-Line have been bottlenecked ... I then neck them down further to form .38 WCF cases, as .44-40 cases are 40 bucks cheaper per 1,000 than buying .38-40 cases... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: All 3,000 cases I have received from Star-Line have been bottlenecked ... I then neck them down further to form .38 WCF cases, as .44-40 cases are 40 bucks cheaper per 1,000 than buying .38-40 cases... Jabez Cowboy That's interesting to read, all 4 packets were straight walled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 44-40 should be bottleneck NOT straight walled. They sent you the wrong brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 If they sent the wrong brass the headstamp would show it. they likely just "dropped a stitch" in processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said: 44-40 should be bottleneck NOT straight walled. They sent you the wrong brass. I doubt they sent the wrong brass. All the 44-40 I’ve gotten from Starline in recent years has been tapered straight wall until I ran them through my press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: If they sent the wrong brass the headstamp would show it. they likely just "dropped a stitch" in processing. Good point about the head stamp. All 44-40 I’ve seen was bottle neck. I shoot 38-40 and I know it’s bottle neck is more pronounced than the 44-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 Just took some photos, I opened up a pack that I was giving to my son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 All the star line 44-40 I ve received for the past 15 years have been exactly like that. Even after I Loaded them. Never had a problem. They fire formed the first time I shot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buckshot Bear said: Just took some photos, I opened up a pack that I was giving to my son. They do look tapered like TC stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 I thought they would have come bottlenecked like how they have come out of the resizing die that I've put them all through now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The two thousand that I have were just tapered when I got them. They would still go in a case gauge though. After the sizing die… looked like any other 44-40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Dan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Been getting them this way for years. Yes they are straight wall taperd. Yes you need to run them through a sizing die to get the proper neck tension. Yes they will fire form on the first use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Ranger Dan said: Been getting them this way for years. Yes they are straight wall tapered. Yes you need to run them through a sizing die to get the proper neck tension. Yes they will fire form on the first use. I still have some from 2011 and they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Got a reply from Starline, hope I haven't mucked things up running them through the sizing die first? I've been reloading for over 40 years, many calibers.......44-40 has been the most finicky and I have destroyed some brass setting the dies up! That is correct. Our 44-40 brass has a taper on it so it will chamber properly, but you won’t see the bottleneck on it until it is fired. Regards, Process Manager Chief Ballistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I’m guessing that by doing a taper vice forming the bottle neck, it vastly simplifies the manufacturing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 They all Form really nice .38-40 cases.... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 For Ya All that have a Problem with this defective Star-Line .44-40 brass, just send them to Me .... I'm so kind hearted, to alleviate your problem, no need to thank me... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Ya that brass is fine, 44-40 is not that much of a bottleneck like a 357 sig or 3030, definitely tapered. Sizing dies will.straighten em out. Especially if you using .429-430 pills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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