Col Del Rio Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 In the Jan 22 issue of American Rifleman, there was an article on Mossberg 590s. In the article, 1 3/4" 12 GA shells were discussed. They work in the Mossberg. My questions are: 1. Are these kind of shells legal for SASS? 2. If so has anyone ever used them in the 1897 Winchester? Thanks, Col. Del Rio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, Col Del Rio said: In the Jan 22 issue of American Rifleman, there was an article on Mossberg 590s. In the article, 1 3/4" 12 GA shells were discussed. They work in the Mossberg. My questions are: 1. Are these kind of shells legal for SASS? 2. If so has anyone ever used them in the 1897 Winchester? Thanks, Col. Del Rio 1. YES 2. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 If you’re thinking of using them in your 97, try them first. I could not get them to feed at all due to the shorter length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Gambler Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I have used them more than once and they worked fine out of my 1897. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 What would the benefit be to using the shorter shells in the 97? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 23 minutes ago, Nickel City Dude said: What would the benefit be to using the shorter shells in the 97? They can be used in Wild Bunch to get six shells in a '97 that is not modified to load six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 minutes ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said: They can be used in Wild Bunch to get six shells in a '97 that is not modified to load six. Thanks, I don't shoot Wild Bunch so I did not know this, but now I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Del Rio Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 Thanks for the inputs. I was thinking of getting some shells for my wife. She is very petite so lighter recoil is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I never used them in a 97, but tried them in my 870 Remington. They fed fine but because of the shorter length did not eject well. We decided the shorter case meant less mass, had to work the action quite hard and fast to get consistent ejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 18 minutes ago, Col Del Rio said: Thanks for the inputs. I was thinking of getting some shells for my wife. She is very petite so lighter recoil is better. Careful with these. Just because they are shorter doesn't mean they are less powerful or less recoil. Most of them list their velocity at 1200fps. Where you can get standard length Federal Subsonics at 900fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Nickel City Dude said: What would the benefit be to using the shorter shells in the 97? Smaller, thus easier to fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Water Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: Smaller, thus easier to fumble. That was the consensus/conclusion arrived at when some folks around these parts tried them about ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Water Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, McCandless said: Careful with these. Just because they are shorter doesn't mean they are less powerful or less recoil. Most of them list their velocity at 1200fps. Where you can get standard length Federal Subsonics at 900fps. And they can retain normal shotshell velocity and shot weight at the shorter length because the "cushion" part of the wad is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, Col Del Rio said: Thanks for the inputs. I was thinking of getting some shells for my wife. She is very petite so lighter recoil is better. I dont think there is a huge difference between them and the low recoil shells the short ones are pretty expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybread Fred Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Tried them in my 97 as well as a mossburg 500 and benelli super nova, wouldn't cycle in any of them without fighting them. Not worth the effort. They do work nicely in a double bbl or single shot. Seemed to be less recoil but I could be mis remembering as it was years ago when I last played with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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