Doc Shapiro Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm just interested in how this will play out in the courts. Both criminal and civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezcal Charlie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 hours ago, John Kloehr said: There are. Way back in this thread I posted the memo and firearms requirements while filming (this memo was not issued per its own requirements). On reading the memo, it seems to me the first rule is that no firearm is loaded unless it is absolutely known to be loaded. This is a sad SMH view of firearms safety. Another SMH is seeing how those of us with firearms knowledge put responsibility on a shooter and those without firearms knowledge hold this shooter harmless. I would take offense to the “those of us with firearms knowledge” as I am well trained, well read, and have 40+ years without a major incident. I won’t say any incident because things happen, guns have failures etc but following gun safety no one got hurt. My point is that there are differences between the range, hunting and the set. Had they used the right safety measures, measures used in Hollywood for thousands of films, this couldn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said: Baldwin would have fired them , since he is the producer Obviously since he didn’t hire them in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Doc Shapiro said: I'm just interested in how this will play out in the courts. Both criminal and civil. Lawyer/Pit Bull Gloria Allred was hired to investigate by a crew member I have no doubt this is a contingency case, as most crew don't have the kind of money need to retain her.. Lawyers don't take contingency cases they can't win. A woman is dead, and a regular person would be convicted of manslaughter. Cynic that I am... I fully expect Baldwin to get a pass on this for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 hours ago, bgavin said: Lawyer/Pit Bull Gloria Allred was hired to investigate by a crew member I have no doubt this is a contingency case, as most crew don't have the kind of money need to retain her.. Lawyers don't take contingency cases they can't win. A woman is dead, and a regular person would be convicted of manslaughter. Cynic that I am... I fully expect Baldwin to get a pass on this for the most part. Whereas I agree, I won't push the like button, cuz there ain't anything I like about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Oh ... oh .... "The "Rust" armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, loaded the gun with what she thought were dummy rounds before Alec Baldwin used it on set, fatally shooting the movie's cinematographer, lawyers for the armorer said in an interview with NBC." "There was a box of dummy rounds and the box was labeled dummy. Hannah did take from that box which she by all accounts should have been able to rely on, to contain only dummy rounds," said Gutierrez Reed's lawyer Jason Bowles." https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_news/rust-armorer-thought-she-loaded-the-gun-with-dummy-rounds-lawyer-says/article_a3710368-8191-57e7-9853-5f8cfa800eb6.html?block_id=997200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 So she allegedly didn't know how to tell the difference between live and dummy rounds, despite being the official film armorer? Something smells really fishy about that one... I have never heard of a dummy round using anything that so much as resembled a live primer. Either the primers are spent/removed or the primer pocket is filled in with epoxy or some other substance that can be discerned as inert material at close glance. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 You don't just leave a box of ammo around to be accessed by anyone who wants to whether it dummy rounds, blanks or whatever. The armorer needs to keep possession so that no one can mess with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 It was Trump's fault! https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/11/04/fresh-prince-actress-janet-hubert-wonders-did-trumpers-give-alec-baldwin-the-loaded-gun-because-of-snl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buckshot Bob Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 https://www.rt.com/usa/540576-alec-baldwin-sued-over-rust-shooting/?fbclid=IwAR0ZzSVHemHiQm_2MFB3UOEs6tpR2Mkonm23c61iIz0yD8pgJchFUZmlwt4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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