Dang It Dan 13202 21 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Well boys and girls, due to the component shortage I am faced with the prospect of using some powder I have had since Obama was in office. I have a new 8# container of Winchester WST. I don't even remember why I bought it, but waste not, want not. Does anyone one know if this is suitable for .38 special? I am not looking for specific data for obvious reasons but if someone could PM me with something like a starting charge, that would be great. Thanks, Dang It Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 60 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Don't know about 38 special, but I use it for 45 Colt. Horace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L 404 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Twist:1:18.750" Primer:Winchester SP, Small Pistol Barrel Length:7.700" Trim Length:1.145" BULLET WEIGHT 140 GR. HDY COWBOY MANUFACTURER Winchester POWDER WST BULLET DIAM. 0.358" C.O.L. 1.450" STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM LOADS GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE 3.5 825 12,600 PSI 3.9 903 15,900 PSI BULLET WEIGHT 148 GR. HDY LHBWC MANUFACTURER Winchester POWDER WST BULLET DIAM. 0.358" C.O.L. 1.160" STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM LOADS GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE 2.5 680 13,000 PSI 2.8 735 16,000 PSI BULLET WEIGHT 158 GR. CAST LSWC MANUFACTURER Winchester POWDER WST BULLET DIAM. 0.358" C.O.L. 1.475" STARTING LOADS MAXIMUM LOADS GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE GRS. VEL. (FT/S) PRESSURE 3.3 705 12,800 PSI 3.7 770 15,700 PSI Edited February 17 by Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyd 91 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hodgdon web site as data listed. It's a messy powder. Great for 12 ga. slugs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lonesoms Al SASS37893 14 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I've been loading 3.2 gr of WST with a 130 gr bullet for years, it is in an older Winchester manual. Hope this helps 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy 917 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Pick your bullet weight ... http://stevespages.com/357p_7.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 2,923 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Messy? It's fine grained and tends to leak out of measures a bit. But it shoots very clean in cowboy cartridges and 12 gauge shotgun target loads. And about as accurate as a pistol powder can be. good luck, GJ 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
High Spade Mikey Wilson 315 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, Lonesoms Al SASS37893 said: I've been loading 3.2 gr of WST with a 130 gr bullet for years, it is in an older Winchester manual. Hope this helps +1 on this..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Go West 426 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Nosler lists 3.4 gr. for 780 fps with a 125 jacketed bullet, so 3.2 or so seems pretty good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 212 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 It’s highly favored by Wild Bunch shooters for .45 ACP. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dang It Dan 13202 21 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Thanks everyone. I think I have a starting load now. Dang It Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin Shootest 60 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 did some testing with WST in Dec, here are the results and the recipe: Created: 12/26/20 02:11 PM Description: MCB 0.38 Notes 1: MCB 0.38 110 TCFP Coated no land 119.0g Avg Notes 2: 1.473oal 3.09 g WST Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000 Bullet Weight(gr): 119.00 Temp: 68 °F BP: 29.95 inHg Altitude: 1200.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 22 903 215.50 107.46 21 913 220.29 108.65 20 917 222.23 109.12 19 877 203.26 104.36 18 900 214.07 107.10 17 911 219.33 108.41 16 901 214.54 107.22 15 915 221.26 108.89 14 926 226.61 110.19 13 929 228.08 110.55 12 880 204.66 104.72 11 871 200.49 103.65 10 888 208.40 105.67 9 915 221.26 108.89 8 917 222.23 109.12 7 910 218.85 108.29 6 900 214.07 107.10 5 932 229.56 110.91 4 918 222.71 109.24 3 929 228.08 110.55 2 924 225.63 109.96 1 869 199.57 103.41 Average: 906.6 FPS SD: 19.1 FPS Min: 869 FPS Max: 932 FPS Spread: 63 FPS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COLORADO JACKSON 138 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 It is a great powder for Cowboy Action, anywhere in the 3.0 to 3.3 gr should be good for 105, 110, 125, 147, and 158 bullet. It is a great powder just cost a little more than most powders but burns very clean at low velocities, i would highly recommend it for this game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wyliefoxEsquire 90 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A BC of 1.000 is outstanding!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 2,923 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, Flyin Shootest said: 3.09 g WST If you publish your loads for an international audience, you should abbreviate GRAINS with "gr". An abbreviation of just "g" is grams. Big difference. You measured powder to the hundredth of grain? Why, and how - a Mettler balance? good luck, GJ Edited February 17 by Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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