Mustang Gregg Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 New Vaquero shooting Pards: I just got a pair of used K-New Vaqueros in .357 cal. I opened them up to find that one has a hammer lock and one does not. So I am looking for a spring seat to replace the lock. When you remove the lock, there is a big gap that a normal spring seat will not latch onto. So I need a "longer" spring seat. I don't want to replace a $100+ grip frame and fit it. I was told that Brownell's Tech guys had such a "longer" spring perch, but they say they've never heard of it. Has anyone tried a Bearcat spring seat? I heard they are longer. Much obliged, Mustang Gregg
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 When I removed those POS locks from my wife'sNMVs. I shaped a #12 fender washer to fill the gap. Been work'n fine for the last 9+ yrs. Might be worth a call to Ruger, and see if they now have something you could use. OLG
Sedalia Dave Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Put locktite on the screws and set them to the unlock position. Mine haven’t caused an issue in 5+ years and tens of thousands of rounds. Why fix fix something with a bandaid that isn’t broke to begin with.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Put locktite on the screws and set them to the unlock position. Mine haven’t caused an issue in 5+ years and tens of thousands of rounds. Why fix fix something with a bandaid that isn’t broke to begin with. What 'band-aid'? That SS washer I used, will last longer than either of us will. BTW-Both locks separated........ Ruger had a recall, IIRC. OLG
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Curly Bill Kelly. Local gunsmith made a seat to go in mine. Works great . I got his contact info if you want it.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Purly SASS # 57438 said: Curly Bill Kelly. Local gunsmith made a seat to go in mine. Works great . I got his contact info if you want it. Can you post a picture? OLG
Manchester Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 The bearcat spring seat works as a replacement according to others on the Ruger forums.
Count Sandor, SASS #74075 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 MG: Pulled this photo from the Ruger forum, purports to be a Bearcat spring seat in place of the lock. Caveat:I have no experience with this, just found it on-line a while back and saved it. I have 4 NMV's with the lock, haven't changed them in the 12 years I've been shooting them. CS
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Here's the Bearcat version. https://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/mainspring-parts/mainsprings/mainspring-seat-sku780000948-11856-28534.aspx?sku=780000948 Wonder who made the other one? OLG
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Just answered my own question. See post #5......... https://rugerforum.net/ruger-single-action/117845-vaquero-lock.html OLG
Carolina Gunslinger Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 This place is a wonderland of single action expertise. Gotta love it.
Eyesa Horg Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Just answered my own question. See post #5......... https://rugerforum.net/ruger-single-action/117845-vaquero-lock.html OLG Great info OLG, like said above ya hate to fix something that aint broke, but those locks have always made me nervous somehow! This sound like any easy fix if for nothing else---peace of mind.
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Can you post a picture? OLG I can tomorrow. I have already turned heat off in shop today. Cold here
Mustang Gregg Posted March 6, 2019 Author Posted March 6, 2019 MUCHAS GRACIAS, PARDS! All of the suppliers are out of the Bearcat seat now. I will try Ruger directly. Hondo: I really like the looks of the one you build, though. I wish you still sold them. Mustang
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mustang Gregg said: MUCHAS GRACIAS, PARDS! All of the suppliers are out of the Bearcat seat now. I will try Ruger directly. Hondo: I really like the looks of the one you build, though. I wish you still sold them. Mustang Have the serial numbers of the guns handy-Ruger uses the #'s be be sure they are looking at the 'rite' diagram and parts list. OLG
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 I've seen hobbyist U-channel material made of plastic, aluminum, and brass, but I can't remember ever seeing any made from steel. A hobby shop might have such a thing in 12 or 24" lengths.
Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 I have some that I had made up for short stroking. Email or text me if you want one. Johnny M. 928-300-6684 johnnymeadows55@yahoo.com
Eyesa Horg Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 23 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Have the serial numbers of the guns handy-Ruger uses the #'s be be sure they are looking at the 'rite' diagram and parts list. OLG If you're trying to buy Bearcat seats, do you need a Bearcat serial # ?
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: If you're trying to buy Bearcat seats, do you need a Bearcat serial # ? Valid point-TNX. I would ask Ruger if they have anything not cataloged, to use in place of the 'lock'. OLG
Mustang Gregg Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Johnny Meadows,SASS#28485L said: I have some that I had made up for short stroking. Email or text me if you want one. Johnny M. 928-300-6684 johnnymeadows55@yahoo.com Much obliged, Johnny. But I just ordered a Bearcat #KPR5 spring seat from Ruger. I appreciate that. BTW: How's that SxS doing?
Mustang Gregg Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Valid point-TNX. I would ask Ruger if they have anything not cataloged, to use in place of the 'lock'. OLG OLG: I reckon they would not sell anything that knowingly replaces a "safety" device. They want all of their firearms left stock when they go out new or when in for repair. Much obliged!!
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mustang Gregg said: OLG: I reckon they would not sell anything that knowingly replaces a "safety" device. They want all of their firearms left stock when they go out new or when in for repair. Much obliged!! Don't bet on it with the problems Ruger had with those crappy locks coming apart. A call will give the answer-- OLG
Eyesa Horg Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 21 hours ago, Mustang Gregg said: OLG: I reckon they would not sell anything that knowingly replaces a "safety" device. They want all of their firearms left stock when they go out new or when in for repair. Much obliged!! What did you tell them? Or did you just order a Bearcat seat period. I'm thinking they might question wanting 4.
Mustang Gregg Posted March 8, 2019 Author Posted March 8, 2019 EH: This time they did not even ask for a S/N. But, yes, they usually they do. I have a list of the Bearcat revolvers and when they were built and their S/N's just in case they ask for one. Mustang Gregg
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Rats- Wonder if you can find some steel channel at the hardware store, and make one. BTW, you have exact same cutout, I had to deal with. OLG
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 2:09 PM, Purly SASS # 57438 said: I can tomorrow. I have already turned heat off in shop today. Cold here Still wait'n........... OLG
KingSnake Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mustang Gregg said: The Bearcat seat just came in. It is too short to catch enough ledge to use in that KNV locking grip frame. I will contact Johnny for his "fixed" spring perch. The long ones that Johnny Meadows has will work. I have used them myself.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, KingSnake said: The long ones that Johnny Meadows has will work. I have used them myself. He doesn't show it on his site. Can you post a picture? OLG
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Still wait'n........... OLG There you are.
G W Wade Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Purly SASS # 57438 said: There you are. Are you able to capture the spring under the new seat? GW
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Not on my Wife's NMV. I had to file a notch on the side, just below the strut's hole. Thank You, Purly OLG
Purly SASS # 57438 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, G W Wade said: Are you able to capture the spring under the new seat? GW Yes. There is a small hole in the strut. Works great.
G W Wade Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 11:11 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Rats- Wonder if you can find some steel channel at the hardware store, and make one. BTW, you have exact same cutout, I had to deal with. OLG I found some aluminum channel meant for edging on 1/4 in plywood. Wish was steel, but. Channel is .4 wide, with inside .265 about a 1/2 in tall made from .060 material.. OLG do you think this would work? Would most likely have a steel washer under spring. Don"t have Ruger handy to check GW
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