McCandless Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Just had a pard on another forum tell me he tried to order some bullets from Midway (they were in stock)... and was refused. The reason they gave him was that new legislation rammed through last week prohibits shipping any part of a cartridge to NY State (even the boonies, where he lives). Does that mean he has to buy from a bullet caster inside the state, or does it ban buying and selling components in New York State altogether? Duc (what just wanna knows what's up...) McC
Cemetery Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 via FFL only, regardless of the manufacturer being in state or not
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 More bad news for NY. Adios Sgt. Jake
Lefty Dude, SASS # 51223 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 It is a good time to live West of the Mississippi and South of the Ohio Rivers. Long live the Stars & Bars!
backshootin beauford mcgee Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Well, not that I disagree with you, but its still ok in Ohio and we are north of the Ohio River.
Boothill Bandit, SASS# 48598 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 More bad news for NY. Adios Sgt. Jake The list of "things not recommended to share": The full list of proposals can be read below: 1. Confiscation of "assault weapons" 2. Confiscation o ten round clips 3. Statewide database for ALL Guns 4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public 5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons” 6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines 7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines 8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month 9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners 10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years 11. State issued pistol permits 12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State 13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers 14. Mandatory locking of guns at home 15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons
McCandless Posted January 21, 2013 Author Posted January 21, 2013 via FFL only, regardless of the manufacturer being in state or not How does this effect reloaders who already have enough components to keep them busy for awhile? Does it grandfather in ammo you already have, components, you already have, or is everything that you don't have an FFL receipt for, illegal? Are LEO's now going to check for receipts for the ammo, (or components), if you get stopped? Just wondering about the logistics of it. No, I ain't movin' there. Me and the Hardy Boys left Bayport a loooong time ago!
Ethan Cord Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 The list of "things not recommended to share": The full list of proposals can be read below: 1. Confiscation of "assault weapons" 2. Confiscation o ten round clips 3. Statewide database for ALL Guns 4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public 5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons” 6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines 7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines 8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month 9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners 10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years 11. State issued pistol permits 12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State 13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers 14. Mandatory locking of guns at home 15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons If they can't take them they will tax them! Look at the list: 9.Tax, 10. Tax, 11. Tax, 13. Tax, 15. Tax. They are going to have to hire a BUNCH of folks to enforce these new rules and collect the new taxes. Even if you don't own a gun in NY, your taxes will go up to pay for the brand new employees with huge benefit packages sent to charge you more money for something you already paid for and legally own. I live in California so I certainly feel your pain!
El Muerto Negro Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 As I understand, it will be April 15 2014 when you will have to buy ammo from a licensed store. It said nothing about parts. As of now there is so much confusion no one is shipping to NY. EMN
Guest Texas Jack Black Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 As I said earlier It is easy to take a day and travel to Maine or VT come to NH spend the day and shop.
Justin O Lawman,SASS#7672 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 There is more misinformation flying around about NY Gun Law Does not effect reloading supplies, at least not yet. Q & A about the law. www.nysafeact.com
KC Colt, SASS #69404 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 What an idiotic law... Reloaders and shooters will just make a road trip over to a neighboring state and stock up on ammo and reloading supplies. Duh. The insane are now in charge.
SlicLee SASS #16638 Life Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 You people from NY without finding out what is legal, what is not your already lying down with your legs open. A governor makes a proclamation on tv and its law.
Chantry Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 You people from NY without finding out what is legal, what is not your already lying down with your legs open. A governor makes a proclamation on tv and its law. Fine, move to NY and stand up for gun rights. Be heard UP HERE. Come up HERE and risk getting arrested, having ALL of your guns seized, your right to own a gun ever again taken away, face enormous fines and do time in jail. The NY legislature rammed it through so fast that NY gunowners had no time to organize, legislators saw the bill 20 minutes before it was voted on. The initial version was written so quickly they forgot to exempt law enforcement from all the bans. So what the final bill states probably remains to be seen.
Key Hay Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 My company wants me to move to Syracuse after they close up operations in Oregon (End of 2014) I will officially be telling them "NO" on Wednesday. Will be heading for the Carolinas instead.
Madd Mike #8595 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 via FFL only, regardless of the manufacturer being in state or not I was shocked that 0-b0m/b-a did not do that nation wide with EO #24 i really was ;)/>/> that way the government could mandate, customer loyaty to some degree then the government, could widdle away at FFL dealers over time, audits etc...late renewals etc yikes what a concept :huh:/>
Wyatt Hurts SASS#72737 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 You people from NY without finding out what is legal, what is not your already lying down with your legs open. A governor makes a proclamation on tv and its law. Pard, I almost don't know what to say to a statement such as yours. I will say this, we need to stand together not rip our fellow SASS shooters based upon the actions taken within a given state. Right now those of us who live in NY live with the most restrictive Gun Laws in the nation. If we don't support each other, who knows, you might be next!
Major E A Sterner #12916 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Well said Wyatt,will we be seeing you at the DbarD next weekend?
Quick Draw Granpaw #48525 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 How does this effect reloaders who already have enough components to keep them busy for awhile? Does it grandfather in ammo you already have, components, you already have, or is everything that you don't have an FFL receipt for, illegal? Are LEO's now going to check for receipts for the ammo, (or components), if you get stopped? Just wondering about the logistics of it. No, I ain't movin' there. Me and the Hardy Boys left Bayport a loooong time ago! WOW! LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 You people from NY without finding out what is legal, what is not your already lying down with your legs open. A governor makes a proclamation on tv and its law. Yeah, that adds a lot to the discussion.
The Eastwood Kid Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Pard, I almost don't know what to say to a statement such as yours. I will say this, we need to stand together not rip our fellow SASS shooters based upon the actions taken within a given state. Right now those of us who live in NY live with the most restrictive Gun Laws in the nation. If we don't support each other, who knows, you might be next! +1
Manatee Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 It's time to fight dirty. Anyone have pictures of Cuomo with a goat in the sack? No? Everyone has something to hide. Time to find out what he's hiding. As to the legislature, the good news is that you only have 22 months until elections. Time to primary the guys who voted for this bill. If you can't get a republican in because it's a democrat district, run a pro-gun democrat in the primary. It will cost the libs plenty to run a primary contest AND a main event. Start putting pressure on now. The good news is Cuomo has just ruined his chances to ever run for president. May he rot in hell.
Cemetery Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I was shocked that 0-b0m/b-a did not do that nation wide with EO #24 i really was ;)/>/>/> that way the government could mandate, customer loyaty to some degree then the government, could widdle away at FFL dealers over time, audits etc...late renewals etc yikes what a concept :huh:/>/> I believe it's more about generating tax money than anything else.....
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 To our NY brethern, remember Lexington & Concord. Thomas Jefferson once said that in order for a republic to survive it must go through a revolution about every two hundred years. We may just be headed in that direction in the near future. I don't know but I would imagine that the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the NRA & the GOA lawyers already have their heads together seeking ways to file suits in federal court to have these laws overturned as in violation of the 2nd Amendment. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand? Cuomo knows that the 2nd isn't about hunting, it's about keeping our govt. from becoming a tyranical govt.. These gun control measures are about power and power only and we must not let them have that power. Cuomo called NY the "progressive" capitol of the nation. Look up the history of that word in American politics going back to the early twentieth century.
Madd Mike #8595 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 It's time to fight dirty. Anyone have pictures of Cuomo with a goat in the sack? No? Everyone has something to hide. Time to find out what he's hiding. As to the legislature, the good news is that you only have 22 months until elections. Time to primary the guys who voted for this bill. If you can't get a republican in because it's a democrat district, run a pro-gun democrat in the primary. It will cost the libs plenty to run a primary contest AND a main event. Start putting pressure on now. The good news is Cuomo has just ruined his chances to ever run for president. May he rot in hell. hippy dude I agree with ya 101% LOL you must really be a priate eye patched water creature and all no really you are right on this one may the force be with us, agin NY anti-2nd dudes mann ;)/> spelling dudes back off
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 To our NY brethern, remember Lexington & Concord. Thomas Jefferson once said that in order for a republic to survive it must go through a revolution about every two hundred years. We may just be headed in that direction in the near future. I don't know but I would imagine that the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the NRA & the GOA lawyers already have their heads together seeking ways to file suits in federal court to have these laws overturned as in violation of the 2nd Amendment. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand? Cuomo knows that the 2nd isn't about hunting, it's about keeping our govt. from becoming a tyranical govt.. These gun control measures are about power and power only and we must not let them have that power. Cuomo called NY the "progressive" capitol of the nation. Look up the history of that word in American politics going back to the early twentieth century. My take on the word progressive is that it is a polite/PC way of saying Communist. Adios Sgt. Jake
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 My take on the word progressive is that it is a polite/PC way of saying Communist. Adios Sgt. Jake Jake you hit the nail right on the head pardner! Woodrow Wilson, & FDR were both progressives, but very mild compared to the communists of today. Clinton after her appointment to the SoS cabinet post was asked at a press conference if she was a communist & she replied that she would rather be called a progressive. I'd like to know what these idiots think is so great about communism. It's never worked in any country that it's been tried. Even hard core China is gradually (be it ever so slowly) moving towards capitalism. If you choose to google it you can read the English lanuage edition of Pravda online. The Russians are laughing at us for being so ignorant to elect Obambam in the first place much less re-elect him for a 2nd term. It took them 70 years to learn that communism does not work and get rid of it, but they finally did get rid of it. .
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